Absolutely every second for an ambulance matters. Every. Second.
People blocking an ambulance should be punished and made examples of.
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Absolutely every second for an ambulance matters. Every. Second.
People blocking an ambulance should be punished and made examples of.
This is a funny clip and an accurate depiction of NYC congestion.
But, I live in a major city and we make way for ambulances. If it's this bad we'll end up with civilians running red lights or cops on motorbikes to unfuck gridlock.
I myself ran a red light last week in rush hour to GTFO when I hear sirens. Just turn on my hazards, slow roll into the red light. Cars were already stopping for me so I was safe, then pulled over.
This is really just making fun of NYC traffic and how fucked it is. The delivery makes it extra funny since we rarely get such an animated German on the front page.
Ja?
What's German for "trying too hard?"
You should see major cities in latin america if you think that's bad. In many countries it's like they don't even care.
The US has no excuse though, we should be way, way better.
In case you wanna see a "RETTUNGSGASSE!!!" (= rescuing lane) in action this clip is what it looks like ideally. If traffic slows down for whatever reason or if there are sirens in the distance drivers are supposed to assume this formation pre-emptively and misusing it is a crime.
That's how it's supposed to work in the US too. Maybe it depends on the state but in MN at least it's illegal to fail to pull over for emergency vehicles. If you see any emergency vehicle on the road running with lights on then you are supposed to stop and pull off to the side so that they can have the whole road.
The video in the OP looks nuts to me too. I've never seen people fail to pull over for an emergency vehicle in my area.
This is a very NYC phenomenon, everywhere else I’ve ever been and lived in the US moves out of the way for emergency vehicles with their lights and sirens on, I’ve seen both issues where there is nowhere to go and times where people just don’t care, every time I’m in NYC I hope to not need medical attention
This is how it is in Manhattan when it’s busy. It’s not so much failing to pull over so much as there is nowhere to go.
I get imense stress from having an ambulance behind me even if there's plenty of room to pass on the side. Immediately plotting where to go if it needs to go exactly where I am.
I can't imagine having an ambulance behind you and going 'Meh, I'm driving here.'
This happened to me once. It was a main road with heavy traffic. I pulled over to the right to let the ambulance pass, but because of traffic, I was effectively sitting on the right lane. Apparently the ambulance wanted to move to the right lane because they were gonna turn right at the corner up ahead. I felt like an asshole because to everyone else on the road, it looked like I intentionally blocked the ambulance. And the siren blaring right behind you while the driver is blasting the horn is very stressful.
If the ambulance is immediately behind you, you've already failed.
In "we'll-behaving" countries ambulance does not lose speed. If you hear a siren, you pull over, doesn't matter if you see it or not.
I'm not directing this at you, just explaning the course of action for people like in the video.
I speak perfect english but still use „ja”, ja?
how else would we know he's German
Where I live in Canada traffic moves for anything EMS related with lights(other than a tow truck unless of course they have an EMS escort). We pull up on to sidewalks, curbs, and anything really to clear a path. Heck I've seen people put their vehicle into a snow bank or a ditch to get out of the way. I guess we're of the mindset that others will do the same for us should we be the ones awaiting EMS to arrive or deliver us to an ER.
In the video right after he says nobody moves out of the way there is someone moving out of the way but he edited the video to remove it.
Disingenuous bullshit.
Feeling confused. Why can't the ambulance go through the small gaps between sidewalk. In my country ambulance drivers drive like its GTA.
theres people on it? Like regularly?
Also i doubt an ambulance would even fit in most places, chances are it's going to get stuck, immediately.
I've seen roads so congested in NYC that they literally cannot get through. Saw a firetruck honk for a solid 5 minutes before getting to move anywhere.
So why not put paramedics on a e-bike, so they can actually arrive at the scene first. It’s not like the patient gets put into the ambulance immediately on arrival. Might as well have someone take care of the patient before the ambulance arrives. Just put a e-bike in the back of the ambulance or rack it on the front.
Shitty solution to a shitty problem in my opinion. Quite often patients are indeed put into the ambulance immediately. Ambulances also have tons of medical equipment, none of which you can fit on a bike, obviously. Then there's the question of paramedic safety, especially given how many road accidents there are in the US. Plus, that would be a major cost for healthcare providers. Instead of 2 paramedics, you'd need 3 or 4, since they can't go solo, again due to safety concerns. Overall this isn't something we should be looking for alternative solutions to. You can't keep making workarounds for systemic issues, like horrible road/traffic design or society being severely uneducated.
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There’s no place for anyone to move to. The congestion is such that you cannot get out of the way. The Van Wyck alone will slow an ambulance to 3-5mph because of traffic. You cannot get out of the way if there’s no place to go!
As if the usa is the only country in the world with congested rush hour traffic. I've been in streets that were way more tightly packed + chaotic than this and people would still clear a path for vehicles with sirens. The emergency vehicle would only be able to go 20 to 30 kmh without a motorcycle escort, but that's still significantly faster than what we're seeing here.
What we're seeing in this video, is that (some) vehicles that are directly in front of the ambulance move out of the way, but vehicles that are a tiny bit further ahead, don't even try. If a vehicle that is directly in front of the ambulance can move out of the way, then a vehicle that is 30 places ahead, is also able to move out of the way, but they don't even try ... What should happen is that as soon as drivers hear a siren, they should start looking for where it's coming from and then clear a path, and drivers should also especially not be driving into the path that others are clearing. Instead it seems like these drivers wait till the siren is right behind them and only then some start to move out of the way.
Looking for excuses in American exceptionalism reads like a case of "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas". This particular problem is something that can be easily improved upon by a public awareness campaign and some light fines for those that keep obstructing after the campaign has been running for some time. But what's obviously even easier than that, is finding an excuse to continue doing nothing about the problem.
Part of the problem is that the "rugged individualism" that America was founded on also equates to entitlement. The last generations that truly had it rough, where a community spirit was important to surviving are dying or gone, and no one has learned their lesson. Yet.
There seems to be quite some space there compared to what I've seen emergency vehicles use here in the Netherlands. Recently there was one traveling across a pretty narrow bridge and a road that normally allocated 2 cars. The traffic was completely stuck and yet somehow the emergency vehicle got enough space to travel through. It outpaces me while I was racing down the bridge on a bike. That was more crowded and narrow than this. People went everywhere with their car to create a way for the emergency vehicle
There's congestion in German cities too. The point isn't to drive away. During rettungsgasse, nobody goes anywhere. They just make way by stopping to the sides.
The problem in NY is that the cars are too big for the lanes to do that.
This is the kind of culture you get and deserve when you allow corporations to control your country and culture
It's not just corporations. It's the individual over the collective. And that is just the nature of certain societies, specifically more competitive societies. In India for example, the mindset of everyone in traffic is 'me over others' - fuck everyone else, i grab what space I can get. If I don't, the next fucker will. Like if it starts raining, your 1 hour trip is now 3 hours, not 1.5 hours because there will be a jam at every intersection in the city. There are just so many people on the road and infrastructure (and society / government at large) that hasn't lent itself to cooperation but rather competition. It becomes their mindset, it becomes everyone's mindset. That is why many from that region turn right politically. I bet it's the same for many Latin countries.