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No one will save the US, this administration is going to let everyone and everything be gutted.
"let"? They are the ones gutting!
A lot of JRPGs were pretty clear on the alightment and heroism of ecoterrorists.
I sometimes wonder about people who played final fantasy 7 but are conservative. Like, did you just blank out everything except tifa's tits and cool swords? They're ecoterrorists fighting against a corporation. Be like Barret.
Never underestimate how media illiterate right wingers are.
1 very specific one that I can think of.
No one can save the US. This is what people voted for (including the protest non voters!), and that's how government is supposed to work: do what it was voted in for.
The dude cheated. Come on, there is no way around it. He legally cheated by gerrymandering and having his minions doing the cheating for him, but he cheated.
By any sane reading of the constitution he should have been barred from running again due to having been part of an insurrection. But SCOTUS said nah let the voters decide.
Gerrymandering has nothing to do with the President.
I'm just awaiting the government investing all these "savings" and the money raised through tariffs into an obvious crypto scam, which then fails spectacularly and predictably and all the US taxpayer money conveniently disappears into the pockets of those running the scam (which totally won't involve Elon Musk).
Like hiking?
Just in case, a hole saw to put the exterior of the tree back over the place being staked, so its less obvious.
The wildest part is what necessitated making this an emergency order, what's the emergency? Corporations aren't making enough money?
Tarif imposed on Canada lumber because of fentanyl.
'because of fentanyl' is a stretch. It's the given excuse not the actual reason.
Are they shipping the Fentanyl in the lumber?
What a stupid fucking move. Here in Oregon there are so many logging scars and shitty areas that were once beautiful old growth forests. The destruction logging leaves in its wake is sobering, terrifying and disgusting. We already have areas that are fucked up, monoculture wastelands. Keep raping that until we get our shit together.
I can’t wait to read the big headline. Until then, they better fucking gridlock this in the courts.
Cunts. All of them. Maybe we could get them to go stand out in the woods holding some branches.
I'm curious if it's going to be old growth though or land that was previously logged, replanted, and closed off. I assume it's the latter, since really I'm not sure old growth would even be as cost effective.
bend over america, hes goin in dry
I am the Lorax, I speak for the trees
Hands off my forests or I'll shoot your fucking knees.
Someone needs to fucking do it 9 months ago.
Wait...they missed. Fuck!
We stuffed and mounted the Lorax decades ago. Now our house is burning down and we dunno whyyy
I don't know if threatening all our homelands is a great idea. I was raised by rangers, grew up scouting, lived in National Forests for a very formative chunk of my life. Sure, we all grew up in a bubble. We're not French. But, we're not going to just not resist. I keep picturing a mama bear defending her cubs, like in The Revenant. This is a vindictive order from the same guy that dodged serving in Vietnam, where he could have learned lessons about attacking people on their home turf in an unpopular war. The one saving grace is these lands are truly so magnificent and vast, most people will never be able to detect the intended atrocities. But I will. I'm supposed to be mountain biking in National Forests right now and am only delaying due to mechanical problems. All of us who actually restore these trails and spend time in these wildernesses will.
The damage to commercial interests is the thing he's really not calculating. Tourism, skiing, etc. will not be happy with this sabotage.
Fucking conservatives online are touting this as a win, since "they [ephemeral] are already mismanaging the forests, and what sections are they logging, and it's not clear cutting, etc."
It's sick that they can't even state that this is bad.
Ooh, RAPE the forest. I thought he said RAKE the forest.
If only there was a sustainable source nearby…maybe even a longtime free trade partner…
Are sawmills and crews suddenly going to spring up to process all the new timber? Also, those trees aren't necessarily construction quality species.
Don't worry, China will buy it. Oh wait...
Based on my googling, theres a severe labor shortage in logging. Hopefully we get the chance to overturn this before much damage is done. This EO and tariffs are unlikely to spur much investment if the possibility remains that they'll just get overturned in 3 years. IF we get another election.
They aren't his trees.
Which half? Bottom half?
Honestly all I can think is can America please die quietly. Your refusing to fight for yourself so why should we give a fuck
I was under the assumption no cared about them.
Honestly, what's the difference between logging in one make-believe-border geographic area vs another? Isn't it doing the same damage to this planet in the long run?
There are woodland species and grassland species. The grassland extends into the woodlands quite a bit. Even a small clearing in the middle of heavy woods makes a big dent in available woodland for species. Having large, unbroken areas of forest are essential for survival of the plants and animals that live there.
That's how a songbird researcher explained it to me.