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Donald Trump and White House officials walked back a Friday announcement that there would be tariff exemptions on imported electronics.

In a Truth Social post on Sunday, Trump directly denied the tariff exemption announcement.

“This is really mind-boggling. If this was serious industrial policy, the main thing you want is certainty: ‘Here’s the tariff, it will be in place for the indefinite future, and you should plan accordingly,’” Dean Baker, an economist at the Center for Economic and Policy Research, a left-leaning think tank, said, according to The Washington Post. “Here, it’s basically: ‘Come back next week and see what we’ve got.’ That’s no way to run an economy.”

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[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 126 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Walking-back the walk-back? They're doing a whole 1-2 shuffle!

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There was a time when Republicans hated flip-flopping

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

They turned 360

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 51 points 1 day ago
[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 96 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I'm not surprised that this is how the second Trump administration has started. This level of stupidity is exactly what I was expecting. What does surprise me, though, is that many tens of millions of people voted for this. Honestly, it's shaken my commitment to democracy. Maybe the people shouldn't be making important decisions.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 66 points 2 days ago (3 children)

How about education should never be touched when it comes to budgets?

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think that's a good idea, but, unfortunately, if put to a vote, I'm confident the American people would vote against it.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How about education should never be touched when it comes to budgets?

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[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

...stupidity? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

They're intentionally crashing the economy so they and all their billionaire buddies can buy everything up for cheap. Everything is going literally exactly as planned.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was one to agree with you for a time, but at this point I’m not even sure what the plan could actually be, US treasury bonds are taking a big hit because of this shit and the global economic order is shifting to exclude the US and could even endanger the dollar as the world reserve currency. That’s a change so seismic no one could even predict what it would mean for anyone. If that’s his intention then whoever came up with the plan is stupid beyond all imagining

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I won’t go russian to judgement or putin the blame on anyone, but some people that love to sow chaos and take down the US do come to mind.

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[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago

I think that's it, and they victimize LGBTQ+ people and immigrants because their supporters love it and it buys them time to implement their kleptocracy. Some of the Trump people are true-believer Nazis, but some of them are just greedy assholes who will throw anyone under the bus for their own gain.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Before the election, I saw a house flying a big flag with the words "Elect Trump King of the United States". So, uh, maybe monarchy would turn out to be even worse...

With that said, I understand how you feel. I don't know how democracy can work in a post-truth era.

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[–] obvs@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

The US was never a democracy to begin with. It was a government designed to benefit one very particular small but powerful minority.

It's just that now it's come out of the closet.

It's strange that it would happen now, at a point when literally every job can be automated(or will be automatable within the next 5-10 years).

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[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The AP source title is: Trump’s commerce secretary says new electronics tariff exemptions are temporary, chip tariffs coming

The part that's been denied is that the exclusion is permanent. Since Friday, electronics from China would be subject to 20% of the fentanyl tariff and nothing more. It will be this way until Trump invents another tariff just for electronics. I believe this is what most commentators expected back in Friday, but there must be talks of capitulation and Trump couldn't stand to lose face.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Crazy that someone checked the facts and shares about it and 3 hours later only has 5 upvotes including the one I just gave. Thank you. Maybe next time you should begin your comment with # HERE IS THE CONTEXT GUYS!

[–] emergence_trailblazer@sh.itjust.works 58 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The USA is definitely a joke now. It's just that everyone is laughing nervously. We are afraid that falling so fast from top to bottom will bring the system down.

[–] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Its a concept of a plan.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

You know, this may really piss off some folks who got an early notification that there would be an exemption for electronics. You know, his insider trading buddies. It will be interesting to see who gets the angriest about this last minute change.

On April 11, 2025, traders placed large, targeted call option bets on Apple. That evening, the Trump administration quietly exempted smartphones from tariffs, news not publicized until April 12. These trades weren't speculation - they were placed before the memo was released.

That's an issue that can come up, when your inside guy for market manipulation with all the power necessary for the scheme is also an impulsive narcissist, who never was that bright to begin with, but is also clearly losing some mental faculties due to age, too.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago

Lmao. Bet there are some angry Tech-bros calling.

May they lose their shirts.

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[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 35 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Stock market futures be like 📉📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

More like this:

MAGA stock market

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Every movement of the stocks can be used to make money if you know it's coming. These guys are making hand over fist with insider trading fraud.

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[–] BagOfHeavyStones@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

An insider trader's delight.

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[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago

I think you're confused. They make up their mind all the time, then check if everyone sold/bought stocks and than they make up their mind again. Then they check if everyone sold/bought stocks and on and on.

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

This isn't even a subtle attempt to destabilize the world market, and yet so many people are just like

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[–] whodrankarnoldpalmer@startrek.website 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It’s almost like your laws had a very good reason for a very long time to disallow the president the power to unilaterally impose tariffs.

Hell, to unilaterally do MOST things.

[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Is it just me or is anyone else reminded of Pahpshmir out of the Naked Gun movies by this disgusting man?

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What the fuck is actually going on here!? Whether they want Americans to pay more because of tariffs or not, how can they not make up their minds?? Decide yes/no, but this constant flip-flipping is also harming the country...

Crash the market, buy low.
These last weeks have been inside trading shitshow.

[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I work for a company that imports all sorts of components for pretty much all of our products and the flip flopping has basically completely grinded everything to a halt because no one can figure out what the hell is going on at any given time. It has been a complete shit show lol

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Assuming we make it out of this, I’d be in favor of Chinese style justice for all of these insider trades.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And the sell off of our debt will pick up speed. These idiots are going to crash our economy and anyone left holding the bag.

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[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lol holy shit. And a few hours later he's going to deny that he denied the exemption and be like "what are you talking about? I said certain electronics are exempt!"

I'm starting to think that maybe the reason Elon Musk did two blatant nazi salutes in a row was to test what they could do in front of everyone's eyes while denying it, and to see how many people would just go "ok sure, I didn't see what I just saw. Whatever you say, dear leader."

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

― George Orwell, 1984

[–] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I doubt Musk's salute was that deep. He's not some slick political operative. He's a 4chan dipshit who thought he'd be edgy and cool and tiptoe up to the line. He thought it would be much more ambiguous what he did and he'd "own the libs" by making them look like fools to the normies who genuinely wouldn't see it for what it actually was. He clearly was not expecting basically no one but the cultists on his side to not see what he did.

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[–] Redditsux@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Stock market doesn't believe his truth social report it seems. Apple shares are still up mid morning.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They walked back again today and said the exemption is for the additional 120% tariff but the 20% imposed earlier still applies

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, they walked back the walkback of the walkback? Does anyone know what's going on?

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