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This just in, this soldier has just been promoted to a cabinet position
I mean, this isn't good obviously, but it also doesn't feel like news.
The US military employs almost 3million people. I challenge you to grab a broad swath of 3 million people and not have a few neo-nazis in the bunch.
Which isn't to say that it's okay or should be tolerated. Just that, like, it isn't news. Or, at least, not any more news than "Nazi sypathizer exists on earth" is news.
It's more, "hey this is not being allowed to happen without repercussion"
I mean, the Army is on the record in the article as saying that the behavior would not be tolerated and that they are investigating. He'll probably get UCMJ'd. I think "without repercussion" is strong.
Should there be more protections to detect this stuff early? Maybe. But, like, that doesn't feel like as flashy a headline I guess.
And idk, should the Armed Forces have people actively monitoring all their personnel's private lives 24/7? Seems a little much to me.
I'm just having trouble figuring out what the takeaway is. What "repercussions" do you want to see here? He gets punished in some way? Cause odds are good he will, if they can figure out who it is (since the Guardian didn't share the name with the Army, per the article.) So what's the story?
But in February, the DoD issued a memo halting a major counter-extremism initiative rooting out white nationalists and far-right influences among servicemen, citing that it was not in line with Donald Trump’s executive orders. Since, the efficacy of rooting out the far right within the ranks remains unclear.
The story is these measures to start having an effect with extremism becoming more visibly prevalent.
I mean, you say more visible, but it's not like these things haven't always happened. I personally knew a guy a few years back who was UCMJ'd for being a racist.
I suppose you're right that he didn't have an article written in the Guardian about him, so it's more visible in that sense. But it seems a little tautological to write an article saying things are more visible, if the "more visibility" in question is that you wrote an article about them.
Fair point. I guess we will see how things develop.
Yep, and if you monitored people's personal lives constantly minority groups like LGBT would be far less likely to join.
So, fun fact: “The Base” is actually a direct English translation of “Al Qaeda”
Y’all qaeda
alot of them tend to be sourced from rural or red areas, not surprsiing most of them are white bumpkins. if you're a poc, you will face some racism at some point, it would be miraculous if you dint.
I dunno about in the military, but I have a cousin that’s a veteran of the Iraq war and he’s a pretty staunch leftist. Claims his service opened his eyes.
I'm guessing that the military as a whole has the same political leanings as the general population, with the majority being left leaning centrists and they will stand by the oath they took never to attack the American people.
Fingers fucking crossed.
not surprised since they target urban areas for recruitment, if you been to any malls, the some of recruitment centers are hidden or out of the way, so you wouldnt immediately recognize its there.
God I fucking hope you're right. If both the military and police become fascist (even if in all but name), it won't just be the USA that is completely fucked.
You have more hope than me.
The US military fucking people completely without any reason or legitimization and in blatant violation to international law is a tradition that the US military upholds since long before Trump though.
If the majority of America was in fact left leaning we would have different candidates in federal elections.
No, we would only have different candidates in federal elections if left leaning people actually voted. They don't.
the actual left leaning people of this country are reliable voters and the vote counts prove it since their numbers are as consistent as republican voters.
what you're likely counting as "left leaning" are centrists by the world's standards (aka democrats) and, by definition, don't have strong enough feelings to vote either way; hence the political fervor that's so weak that they don't even show up at the polls.
except theres no true "left leaning" in the country though.
there is, it's just relatively few.
the actual left leaning people of this country are reliable voters
Except when withholding votes in protest.
those weren't left leaning people, they were liberals; specifically democrats.
In a system like the US it's essentially impossible to get proper candidates elected anyway, it also fuels radicalism, and it's incredible this nation is called democratic
This one?
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
Nothing in here about never attacking anyone, unfortunately. But even if there were, they forget these words about three seconds after saying them.
I saw a youtube video from a woman that had a similar experience yesterday. Came from a deeply red, rural community, and went not to war but to a military base in okinawa. She talked about how many of the US military structures are actually quite socialized (everyone at the same rank gets the same salary, free healthcare, etc.) and also about how eye opening it was to get a different perspective on the pacific war than just the narrative of the US.
I can definitely see how just leaving the country for a place with a radically different culture alone could push you towards more leftist views (though afaik in military bases you still have to actively seek out interaction with anything outside the base), to say nothing of experiencing the horrors of war first-hand.
She talked about how many of the US military structures are actually quite socialized (everyone at the same rank gets the same salary, free healthcare, etc.)
I love how we're told socialism is awful and bad for the public, and yet for the military it's a perk for serving your country. "Of course they deserve housing and healthcare and education, they're risking their lives for our freedom!" So are you rewarding them or punishing them?
Just one more layer of hypocrisy.
I'm shocked
Well, not that shocked.
Pete Hegseth?
