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[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 27 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Whoever coined the phrase "it's not my job to educate you" is top of my rogues gallery. If you want democracy to succeed, it is literally your job to educate everyone you can about the things you are passionate about and the changes you wish to see. I get where it came from, I understand the feeling, but it's the worst possible phrase in the context of trying to make a political change.

[–] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

I feel like a lot of progressive vocabulary words get used outside the contexts where they apply.

"It's not my job to educate you" is a fair and valid thing to say when someone demands you defend the validity of your identity while you're just trying to live your life. It's unreasonable to expect every trans person to explain the history and complexity of gender to every chud who gives them shit.

It is, however, the opposite of activism and super unhelpful for an activist to say while ostensibly trying to build a movement.

Similarly, "mansplaining" is not a blanket term for any man explaining anything, listening to a friend vent is not "emotional labor", and participating in cultures other than the one you grew up in is not "cultural appropriation". All real terms that point at real problems, all sometimes used outside the contexts in which they are helpful.

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[–] scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

“It’s not my job to educate you” led to Prager University

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

If you don't, someone else will.

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This for everytime some one suggests an idea. It's not your job to snipe it because it's too lofty an idea. If it's a good idea, help hold it up.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (35 children)
[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yeah the identical styles get old real fast

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Its also the weapon of the enemy.

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[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Like the Muslim voters in Michigan that voted for Trump because they didn't like Harris' support of Israel and then immediately had ICE breathing down their necks

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is true, but it's a good reminder that most people don't act like this meme. We should remember that minorities don't owe us their vote, and we should stand up for them

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

As a transwoman I'm suddenly used to abuse from false allies who see me as an "Guaranteed Vote"

They're not wrong, but only because it's a two-party system and a true enemy is worse than a false friend.

[–] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

Yes, this is the attitude they are referring to.

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[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (11 children)

WhY Do YoU SuPpOrT GeNoCiDe?

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[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago (8 children)

That sounds like something an enemy would say, right before they disagree with my objectively correct opinion about some minor thing and reveal their true nature.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 months ago

I feel personally attacked by your vague statement and therefore see you as an enemy for life

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago (28 children)

Also, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Never forget that even though we knew that Stalin was a vicious mass murderer of his own people, we allied with him to defeat Hitler, and it is highly unlikely that we could have done it without out them, or at least it would have taken us far longer, and cost many more lives.

We turned on each other the moment the war was over, but at least we could agree to put aside our differences for the time being.

It is likely that when it comes time to finally put down the rabid dog named MAGA once and for all, it is going to require allying with the Traditional GOP. I despise them with everything I have, and will want accountability when this is over, but if they are willing to assist us in purging MAGA from society, we are going to have to hold our noses and accept their help.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

It is likely that when it comes time to finally put down the rabid dog named MAGA once and for all, it is going to require allying with the Traditional GOP.

Kamala tried that, it lead to Leftists not voting for Kamala Harris because they no longer saw a difference between her and Trump, and Rightists didn't vote for Kamala Harris because even the "Never-Trumper" faction of the party gets in line behind whoever the GOP tells them to. Because Republicans have something Democrats will never have, unquestionable brand loyalty.

MAGA will be not be defeated by cooperating with Conservatives who fear that they "Must defeat Trump to save the party", this is because Conservatives do not have an ideology, they have a tribe, and their tribe must always win or their Gods will hold them accountable.

If Conservatives turn against MAGA, it will be because they've been directly targeted by MAGA and are looking for a way out, and by the time that happens it'll already be too late. "No one left to speak for me" as the poem goes.

That said, the Right Wing portion of the Supreme Court is turning against Trump for this exact reason, they realize that if they don't he will just get rid of the Supreme Court and rule directly.

If "The TRUE Republicans" wanted to work with us to destroy Trumpism, I'd gladly accept their help, but they will NEVER work against the tribe.

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[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

However, you have to be careful that your movement doesn't get infiltrated, because that will hurt your movement. You have to be careful who you are walking with, and what their end goals are.

Don't protest for a better health care system with people that are antiscientific. Don't protest for a free Palestine together with antisemitic people. Do not let them blur your message.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Imperfect Allies Aren't Enemies

  • Critique to build, not tear down
  • Organize, don't just argue
  • Movements win, not individuals
  • Perfection is the enemy of progress
  • Ego kills movements
  • Plan for the long game
  • Meet people where they are
  • Power doesn't care about feelings
  • Division is a weapon used by elites, don't play along
[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 months ago

Thank you for annotating the post. Bumping engagement with my comment.

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[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Dear 50501 folks,

Every so often I check my messages at Facebook and noted there’s a big 50501 group there… any chance you could get that group to start educating their Facebook members that supporting Facebook means supporting the coup and fascism?

Just a thought, Wwe

[–] stray@pawb.social 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying, but if we sequester ourselves to niche spaces, how can we spread information? Isn't it important to reach Facebook users?

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What you do is underground railroad them out of Facebook.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Using Facebook to attract disgruntled hostiles who are potentially ripe for recruitment, or those who are politically agnostic and getting angry at what is happening to them, and poisoning one of their primary propganda mouthpieces, are all important missions.

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[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ITT: A demonstration of the precise behavior OP is trying to warn against.

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[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (19 children)

I'd be more likely to listen if this weren't next to an AI Gen otter

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

Another sepia toned AI comic.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I really wish my fellow "progressives" would get it through their heads how deeply true it is that perfection is the enemy of progress. It's supremely ironic that so many people who say they value freedom and individuality are so ABSOLUTELY intolerant of any slight deviations from what they see as moral perfection and adherence to doctrines. It's like you're either a hundred percent right or ten thousand percent wrong, and even suggesting there can be an in-between is being "complicit". Lighten the fuck up or we'll never get anywhere.

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