I really wanted one but it's hardware isn't supported by grapheneOS. I wish these two companies would partner up, that would be the best of both worlds.
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Might not be the same, but they do partner with Murino to offer an /e/os degoogled alternative.
That's cool. At least its degoogled. GOS's security is a must for me though, after using it I don't ever want to go without. But I'm glad fairPhone is offering alternatives.
GOS's security is very cool, but my threat model does not justify buying more disposable tech just for that.
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You mean Murena?
Yup! Completely butchered that spelling, sorry for anyone who tried to google them.
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I have a FP5, and love it. Yes, of course I wish it had a headphone jack.
Dual sim for my two countries I use it for, plus no sim tool needed to change hardware sim is a nice little plus.
Replaceable battery is dank. It's small and light enough to toss in a small bag if I'm going somewhere and I honestly basically never think about my battery life now.
All the rest of the hardware is pretty good. Not amazing, you can get more for the money, but also it feels good to have some morality in it. And I don't want to break it bir the peace of mind that if I do it's an easy repair, fantastic.
I hated the Fairphone case though. Terrible POS. I got a random internet one and it's much better.
Adding a headphone jack would make it a slam dunk
Does someone have experience with a de-googled Android phone (graphene, /e/, ...) for professional use in IT? I need a ton of authenticator apps (Microsoft Authenticator, Oracle Authenticator,...), various VPN apps and privacy-invading 'security' apps. Does such stuff typically work without play services and with a custom rom?
In the past I used a custom rom on my private phone and already there it was a bit of hassle to get the banking app running. I'd assume it to be worse with these professional spyware apps. Am I right?
Authenticators work fine for me, banking works fine, I've had a VPN working. Have had some issues with whatsapp backup because it only wanted to backup to google drive. But after circumventing that, no other issues. This is on e/os
Every thing you said works perfectly fine on my calyxOS FP5. Haven't tried Oracle Authenticator
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https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_5_(fairphone-fp5)
Audio
Status : Broken No driver for the audio codec yet. No internal speaker or microphone is currently working. You can get all sounds via Bluetooth or USB peripherals.
That's a shame :(
But that's only the case for postmarketOS, and not the stock OS, right?
yeah just postmarketOS.
Someones working on porting SailfishOS: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-os-for-fairphones-devices/21516/76
The Fairphone 4 is fully supported by Ubuntu touch though (and Fairphone5 is in the works) : https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/fp4/
I would assume so, Its probably only broken when using a linux distro like postmarket and not the stock android it comes with.
I hoped this was a linux phone where all the features just worked but sadly not.
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If you want a de-googled fairphone they sell and support a version with /e/os preinstalled
My key feature is a headphone jack. I'm really bummed to hear the FP5 has none.
I personally use a Pixel 9 with GraphineOS, I would love to use a fairphone however they desperately need to get themselves together and improve security significantly.
I can't tell you the details but for some good reasons, GrapheneOS don't support Fairphone hardware. They somehow fuck things up in the security domain.
Using public keys for verification and beinh severly late on security updates, yeah not good
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How so?
Do you mean the company?
The phones are getting updates years after other phones support stops...
Edit.. just saw your other post.
Apart from the excellent repairability, this would feel like a downgrade from my S21 Ultra. Love the concept though.
Iโm thinking of getting an HMD Skyline instead of this? Any reason not to? Pros and cons?
Pro: Fairphone try to support their phones for as long as possible, 8-10 years for the FP5
Con: their customer support is desperate for improvement
Pro: FP offer spare parts for a long time, and there's a active gray market of people trading parts around
Con: I'm no expert on cybersecurity, but the founder and head dev or GrapheneOS talked about how FP are apparently doing a poor job with their security patches. I invite anyone to ELI5 this and do a better job than me explaining it.
Once my Galaxy S10 gives up on life which is hopefully not too soon I'll get a Fairphone too.
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