Now they could deal with their quality management in terms of software as a next, huge leap.
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In fact it's even more crazy if you consider VW group:
Tesla Total 53,237
VW Group:
VW 65,679
Audi 34,739
Skoda 26,578
Cupra (SEAT) 18,878
Porsche 9,929
VW Group total 155,803
ratio 155803/53237 = 2.93
VW group has almost 3 times higher sales than Tesal!!
https://www.carscoops.com/2025/04/vw-finally-beats-tesla-outselling-it-in-q1-ev-sales-in-europe/
PS:
Stellantis:
Peugeot 24,397
Citroen 16,367
Opel 13,612
FIAT 6,825
Stellantis Total 61,201
Stellantis manages to clearly beat Tesla too!!
Edit: I forgot FIAT in the Stellantis numbers.
On my second ID4, and the wife has our first ID3. Lovely cars to drive, will never go back to an ice car again.
Watch out for BYD from China.
Freaking hell Lemmy has a huge hard on for BYD.
It’s not just Lemmy. Also Reddit
I don't go there anymore so I don't know 🤷
Can't speak for other countries, but in Australia BYD is smashing it.
They represent incredible value for money and it's not like we've got a local industry to protect - our conservative government made sure of that.
We're already the world's dumping ground for shit vehicles that don't meet emissions standards, so having a non-Elon Musk EV alternative is something people are grabbing with both hands. We bought a BYD Seal Performance for $70k AUD a little over a year ago. For that money you get an incredibly comfortable sedan that does 500k on a charge, costs about $1 per 100km to run, and does 0-100 in 3.8 seconds.
EU vehicles are crazy overpriced by comparison, and because they try and position Mercedes / BMW / VW as luxury brands here the servicing and repair costs are through the roof. Part availability also sucks, with everything being a 6+ week lead time. We've owned European vehicles on several occasions and never again.
What about Japanese options?
Like what?
Korea has a few (Hyundai, Kia / same,same) but the only Japanese options are [P]HEV or the Toyota BZ4X which is... ugly... if it didn't have a Toyota badge I don't think they'd sell any of them. Few old Leafs still hanging in there, but if you want to go more than 100k at a time that's them ruled out.
300km+ range for the Leaf these days and they've got the Ariya that has over 400km of range, but I just checked and they don't seem to offer either in Australia...
Guess you're truly stuck with Chinese and Korean models then...
I only brought them up because I saw a news report that their dealerships are popping up and their starting price is much lower than Tesla. Like €17000.
I've seen some videos on them. They look pretty nice but I worry about how they hold up and the build quality, as I would any relatively unestablished brand.
After Krasnov was elected, all big ticket items are on hold for at least two years. Bravo Volkswagen Group kicking Tesla in the nutsacks. Carry on!
Somewhat amazed they've rebounded this much given the VW emission scandal some years back. Guess it wasn't that brand-damaging after all.
Barely made a dent commercially, but put the company in a difficult financial situation where build quality was a bit lower and cars a bit more expensive for a while.
The point of these punishments should never be to kill a company, but to hurt investors, who are ultimately responsible for setting the CEOs agenda.
And, well, VW stock is still down about -80% compared to pre-dieselgate. So I would say eurocapitalism working as intended.
Tesla was the top EV seller in Europe? I'm surprised.
I'm guessing the top electric-only vehicle excluding hybrids and plug-in hybrids? In the two or three European countries I visit often you definitely see more of those, at least anecdotally. But maybe London City techbros and finance bros outweight everybody else? That seems plausible.
I have to say, I find all of these reports and investor analyses on Tesla's PR woes way too optimistic about how well they'll recover if and when Musk "steps away from the government". I really don't think that genie is going back in the bottle, guys.
Don't know about "London City techbros and finance bros" but in Sweden and Norway we prefer pure EV over hybrids.
Tesla was the top EV seller in Europe? I’m surprised.
Not only that, A few years ago, Tesla was as big as all the rest combined!
I’m guessing the top electric-only vehicle excluding hybrids and plug-in hybrids?
That's how it should be, but in most cases it's not. 100% battery is called BEV now. But BEV sales have far surpassed plugin Hybrid (PHEV).
IMO a Hybrid plugin or not is NOT electric just as it is NOT an ICE, it's a hybrid of the 2! But Hybrids are generally counted as EV.