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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Elissa Slotkin can fuck off.

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency…

Oh, she can really fuck off.

Edit:

“I can’t do what she does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist,” she concluded.

This is code for not rocking the boat.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (2 children)

So abandon economic justice and civil rights.

Is there anything left?

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago

The color blue, instead of red.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 101 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (16 children)

No, she can fuck off.

The oligarchy is killing us, and spinning language won’t change that. Meanwhile, ‘woke’ just means ‘social empathy’, which is ironically the solution to many of the problems the oligarchy is causing (and they’re not shy about this – Musk recently said empathy is bad).

We need more ‘woke’, not less. And being butthurt that the fascists are using ‘woke’ as a slur against us is childish and easy to ignore if you’re not too simple to get it.

Fuck this. I’m woke and proud of it. We all should be.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Woke means understanding we live in an oligarchy in my mind. MAGA calls people sheep while complaining about them being woke in the same breath. They don't even understand the language they use.

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[–] mcv@lemm.ee 73 points 6 days ago

Way to advertise what side she's really on.

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 62 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Unfortunately shes in the right party for this BS. This is what the Dems have been for decades. We need a new party, not a new democrat.

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[–] Uranus_Hz@lemm.ee 48 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

She’s sorta right. ‘Oligarchy’ is a big college word that Joe Bumblefuck doesn’t understand.

Aristocrats is a good word, but again: “duh?”

Therefore Dems just need to start harping about “rich fucking parasites”

[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago

People are clued in on oligarchy even if they don’t quite know the exact definition. After Bernie and AOC started their tour, it was Wikipedia top 5 articles. Slotkin is just a right wing traitor.

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[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 54 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And this is why fascism is winning.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yep. When the 'resistance' grand plans are to adopt the fascist framing (e.g. that 'woke is weak' and should be surrendered) what's the point in having an opposition party?

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[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 36 points 6 days ago

The Democratic Party is so full of collaborationists. Just shows how democracy and capitalism are incompatible. The bourgeois class just buy the politicians.

The unfalsifiable orthodoxy. Moving to the far-right and appealing to moderate Republicans win elections. If a Democrat wins, it proves that this works, if a Democrat loses, they just hadn't moved far-right enough.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

First part of article title is a bit misleading I think. She thinks "Kings" is a better term than oligarchy because it's more relatable. She has a plan to fight kings. She does seem to think wokeness is weak though.

Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) has urged her Democratic colleagues to stop attacking the “oligarchy” on Thursday, arguing that the word did not resonate with most Americans and should be replaced with “kings.”

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) – argued that the Democratic Party needed to lose its “weak and woke” reputation and “fucking retake the flag,” adopting a “goddamn Alpha energy” inspired by Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell.

“She said Democrats should stop using the term ‘oligarchy,’ a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'” wrote Wren, who reported that Slotkin was planning to deliver a series of speeches in the coming months about her plan.

[–] blaggle42@lemmy.today 16 points 6 days ago

Somehow this made it worse. “goddamn Alpha energy” - who are these people. All I want is for the dems to not be rich people faking concern for the poor.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago

People recognize when they're being talked down to, this is a losing strategy.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 39 points 6 days ago

"Don't let perfect the enemy of good."

The "good":

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 41 points 6 days ago (3 children)
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Dem Senator Says Party Needs to Stop Attacking ‘Oligarchy’ and Focus on Losing

FTFY

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago

And this is why we need more decent folk around the country like AOC to run for any and all offices.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 34 points 6 days ago

I am sure this slide to the right will surely work.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 39 points 6 days ago

Ratchet effect at work

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 33 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The only reason the party has the woke reputation is that empty lip service is really all they had left. People like this need to get a fucking clue. If people want to vote for republicans, they will never ever ever get confused and accidentally vote for democrats just because you mirrored their policies from 12-20 years ago.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

empty lip service is really all they had left

That’s all there ever was. They never did jack or shit to help LGBT people in southern states.

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[–] anas@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Outsider opinion: There are two sides who haven’t voted for you, one side who says they’ll vote for you if you change, and another side who says they’ll never vote anything but red. There seems to be an obvious vote to go after.

[–] toolverine@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Capitulation to the right hasn't worked for 20 years. The Third Way is dead and no one respects it.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not only do we not respect it, we hate it with the heat of a thousand suns

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Yep, I voted for the Green Party, for this very reason, and all I get from people is criticism. Democrats who don't oppose fascism aren't worth voting for. If they want to be Blue MAGA they can go after Trump's voters and see where that gets them.

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 days ago

Of course. They don't want to fix things, they just want to be the ones getting the benefits.

Let's get back to our controlled opposition roots.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Fighting Oligarchy resonates greatly. But yes, the dems have focused too much on the culture war in favour of participating in the class war against the working class.

That is definitely something they should put waaaay more focus on. Trump is the cry for help of much of the working class, if people would believe you actually fought FOR the working people in your country, the dems would be unstoppable.

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[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 6 days ago

At least she's honest about throwing in with fascism.

The rest of the Democratic party is pissing on our leg and telling us it's raining.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

woke is what republicans use to attack whatever they dont like, if a democrat uses woke, they arnt really a DEMocrat, alot of them have a veneer of being dem or progressive but they often use buzzwords of right wingers to justify thier positions.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Slotkin says she wants to take the focus off of Oligarchy and Putin's smile just gets a few inches wider.

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago

Yeah if she wasn't CIA I'd perhaps understand her perspective of wanting to focus on just attacking Trump as the King

But.. this issue is so beyond Trump that focusing it on him will just make people go back to normal when he's gone - which is not okay

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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

THESE are the types of incumbents the DNC does not want primaried?! Holy hell.

[–] theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

She ate the onion, I have never seen the word "Woke" used in a conversation without it being extremist politics or a comedy routine.

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[–] Venoregard@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Slotkin is a NEOCON.

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

And you're the problem

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

American number 1 priority would be to get out this 2 party system with ranked voting or something.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

kamala never mentioned identity politics on the campaign

[–] UncleJosh@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

What are they going to do, ask MAGA to stop calling them "woke"? MAGA is all about bullying people, so saying "we don't like your name-calling" is only going to make it worse.

Grow a spine. Respond with "I know what woke means, so are you arguing against it from the racism angle or the ignorance angle?"

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 14 points 6 days ago

Hey stupid you're doing it wrong. Going even more to the right isn't going to change jack shit. Listen to the people who are already willing to vote for Democrat if only the Democrat wasn't an idiot.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (4 children)

For those of you that can't be bothered to read more than a headline:

Dem Senator Says Party Needs to Stop Attacking ‘Oligarchy’ and Focus on Losing ‘Woke’ Reputation

AP Photo/Paul Sancya, Pool

Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) has urged her Democratic colleagues to stop attacking the “oligarchy” on Thursday, arguing that the word did not resonate with most Americans and should be replaced with “kings.”

During an interview with Politico national politics correspondent Adam Wren, Slotkin spoke about her “war plan” to “contain and defeat” President Donald Trump.

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) – argued that the Democratic Party needed to lose its “weak and woke” reputation and “fucking retake the flag,” adopting a “goddamn Alpha energy” inspired by Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell.

“She said Democrats should stop using the term ‘oligarchy,’ a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'” wrote Wren, who reported that Slotkin was planning to deliver a series of speeches in the coming months about her plan.

Slotkin told the news outlet, “Trump is doing a whole bunch of things that I think are a threat to our economy and a threat to our Democracy and I have a responsibility on behalf of my state to point that out and try to do something about that.”

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) – the most likely Democratic presidential nominee in 2028, according to analyst Nate Silver – recently commenced a “Fight Oligarchy” tour with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) across the United States.

Last month, after Slotkin was asked by a constituent how she would “step up for us now” like Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders, Slotkin threw shade at her progressive colleagues.

“Everyone you mentioned has a lot of words, but what have they actually done to change the situation with Donald Trump and the cuts and the attacks on our judiciary and the attacks on our Constitution?” asked Slotkin, who claimed her responsibilities fighting Trump’s government cuts forced her “to be more than just an AOC.”

“I can’t do what she does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist,” she concluded.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, talking about "alpha energy" definitely doesn't make the speaker look sad and weak. /s

Even if pandering to the manosphere wasn't itself incredibly cringe, she's years out of date on their terminology. Truly this is a demonstration of how she's got her finger on the pulse of the people.

And "kings" is very much not a synonym for "oligarchy" and she's definitely purposefully choosing that rather than something that would continue to offend the uber-wealthy.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions

The crowds at the AOC rallies prove her wrong. It does resonate with people, just not for the pro-business, zionist, reach across the aisle industry-whore constituents Slotkin represents.

"Everyone you mentioned has a lot of words, but what have they actually done to change the situation with Donald Trump "

The anti oligarchy tour drew huge crowds and energized an angry base thats rapidly abandoning the democratic party. What has Slotkin done, besides uselessly infight with progressives, push lobbyist interests, and normalize a bunch of language the republicans use? Here she is denigrating "coastal institutions" as out of touch, and in her state of the union rebuttal she said Ronald reagan would be rolling over in his grave. Why is she talking about Ronald Reagan? i'd hope Reagan's coffin is 1000% full of democrats piss, so I'd be happy if he rotated in that piss all day every day. She sure talks like a republican.

Slotkin is a shining example of everything thats wrong about the DNC and the current democratic party.

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