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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 hours ago

Notice how the Israel issue is a lot quieter now despite being worse?

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 25 points 13 hours ago

And the world is just going to watch this genocide occur cause some people believe their race is superior to all and makes claims to lands 2000 years in the past.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Between the genocide in Gaza and what’s coming for the West Bank, Palestine might not exist in the next few years. Survivors scattered to the winds.

It’s incredibly sad, but honestly foreseeable. The right wing shift in the west is killing what little sympathy and press coverage there was.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 8 hours ago

The following should be taken as a bit of a ramble because I want to express this idea I have, and I don’t think it should be taken as any sort of attempt to correct or challenge what you’re saying because I don’t think what you’re saying is in any way incorrect.

I think the right wing shift is a mirage that is being perpetrated by corporate-owned media. That’s not to say that every media outlet is racist or is explicitly attempting to push a narrative, but I think that the large corporations in the U.S., at least, that own news media have a vested interest in not offending both monied and powerful interests. In that regard they are avoiding reporting on topics that will rally the public, or are outright changing how they report on certain topics.

Which is a lot of words to say that I think what we’re seeing is false consensus driven from the top down, rather than a ‘bottom up’ shift in opinion. I think many of the normal folks are ill-informed, or outright propagandized.
Doesn’t change the outcome, or the opinions held by so many, though… sigh

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I’m fearful that the current US presidency is the final nail in Palestines coffin. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t expect them to hang on in time for the next election.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] 3laws@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

In Soviet USA the President chooses the next election.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 18 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

As much as I hated the Biden admin being pro Israel, too - at least they exercised some oversight. This is now gone and Netanyahu and his ilk can finally live out their darkest dreams.

That this sort of activity comes from the Jewish of all people, in the 21st century, is appalling.

But let's not forget Trumplon's part in all this. He is the big enabler here. Come judgement day (and I mean that very secularly) he will sit with Netanyahu. Well they might both be dead by then, but I have no doubt that history will not look kindly upon them.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 9 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Protest voting the Democratic Party over Palestine was and remains utterly baffling to me.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

What do you mean, Kamala would have done the same thing!

  • absolute fucking morons
[–] pulido 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Kamala would have done the same thing.

Democrats have never shown a willingness to challenge Israel on anything.

The "absolute fucking morons" are the ones who thought kamala would be any different.

Maybe Bernie would've done something different, but neo-liberals don't like him.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world -1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Produce any media where she even hinted at having a different Gaza policy.

Israel started the genocide early after Oct 7, it's not escalated. They're already leveled over 80% of Gaza and destroyed every hospital and piece of infrastructure under Biden.

Tell me, how is that at all different from Trump's current policy?

Edit: for the down voters, I don't care. My point is made by you not being able to do anything other than down vote. You know I'm right and that makes you mad. No media exists which will absolve Kamala on Israel.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

i don't remember hearing Harris say anything about bulldozing Gaza and building a beach resort

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Here's one of her staffers explaining the difference, since the difference is so fucking hard for certain people to comprehend. It wasn't going to be fantastic, but I stand by my statement that only absolute fucking morons think they would have been the same. Because those people can't understand there are shades of awful or the difference between bad, and fucking gone.

That mentality is the textbook definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face. Voting for Kamala was attempting stem the bleeding, and people decided to cut a limb off instead. It's a shame that so many more people are going to suffer for their choice. And I really hope the naked fascism that these people directly contributed to via tacit support (thanks non voters!) isn't as bad as it will be, all because they wanted to play purity politics.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Former staffer that resigned because of the Gaza policy and was not involved in the 2024 election.

From the article, since you didn't bother to read.

Harris has not been the candidate many of us wanted. Her candidacy is historic, but she and the Democratic Party have failed to champion a truly progressive agenda — one needed not only to motivate her base, but to take on the right wing’s increasingly fascist policies and rhetoric. It has been devastating to see Harris refuse to break with Biden on Israel, adopt xenophobic talking points about immigration policy, and campaign alongside hawkish, pro-war Republicans.

And yeah, I 100% agree with the author. Her position is and remains mine. If you'd bother to read the article, you'd see she even supported the uncommitted movement, which guess who the protest voters were?

You are struggling to square away that I have empathy and understand why people couldn't stomach Harris. Stop calling people "morons" because they can't as easily justify genocide as you can.

Also do note that rather than addressing my challenge, you proved my point. Harris had identical Gaza policies to Biden and the only reason to vote for her was the fact that there were some pro Palestinian Democrats. You vote for her not because she's better in Gaza, but out of the hope that members of her caucus could moderate her position.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That is some heavy copium your on buddy. You might want to step down on your doses before you do permanent damage.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world -3 points 8 hours ago

My position has been rock solid through the entire election. Feel free to look through my past comments.

The only ones coping are you guys that are just becoming aware of genocide because Trump is also supporting it.

Keep getting mad and ignoring anyone who doesn't 100% carry water for Democrats. I'm sure that will continue to be electorially successful.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Not to me.

Biden's and by extension Kamala's Israel policy was functionally identical to Trump's. The atrocities happening under Trump were happening under Biden. The only thing that's changed is now that Trump is in charge it's become acceptable for left leaning media to criticize that policy. Under Biden, outlets like MSNBC literally fired everyone with even an incling of pro Palestinian rhetoric. They framed genocide protestors as antisemites.

And it wasn't just Biden. Practically the entire DNC was 100% behind Israel.

The people protesting had friends and family killed by US muntins that the Biden admin never even hinted at threatening to reduce, even after Israel doing things like murdering aid workers. Even after blowing past every single "red line".

Go watch Antony Blinken talk about Israel. It's disgusting, but there really was no difference in rhetoric between him and the current Trump admin.

You don't understand the protest vote because, like Biden, you didn't look into or care about the protesters until it became something you could use to bitch about Trump or voters that didn't do what you wanted.

And yes, I voted for Kamala and told everyone to vote for her. Her campaign shat the bed by chasing right-wing voters and by ignoring the genocide their admin continued to aid. "At least I'm not the other guy" does not work or inspire votes.

[–] wanderingmagus@lemm.ee -2 points 2 hours ago

Guess you can smugly smile about your moral superiority as they "finish the job" in the final Nakhba.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

it's gone because news dont cover it

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 48 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They haven't run out. They've been prevented from restocking.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago

"Because they were prevented from restocking, they are now out of food, but this condition need not continue if they are restocked.". Is that good enough?

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 9 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

damn, hopefully saudi arabia, qatar, dubai, oman, egypt, or any other trillion dollar petro states can step up and help out

maybe egypt needs to open the gates so they can let aid in?

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Jordan once tried but they're unlikely to make that mistake again. Look up Black September for more info.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They don't give a shit. Anyone who shows any kind of help or sympathy will be pressured to take on what? 1.5 million people? No one in that area wants that kind injection of foreigners.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

what’s stopping them from supplying aid through the Egyptian border?

[–] fif-t@fedia.io 10 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Israel controls it? In case you weren't aware

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Egypt could open its border for refugees though.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago
[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

i’m like why would egypt let israel control it

Egypt tightly restricts the opening of the Rafah crossing, and has kept it shut during previous Israeli bombardments of Gaza in 2021, 2014, and 2008. Since a period of heightened conflict between the Egyptian military and jihadists in the Sinai peninsula began in 2013, Egypt has vastly curtailed movement through the crossing, and banned the entry of aid organisations and journalists into northern Sinai. Palestinians accuse Egypt of bolstering Israel’s 16-year blockade by essentially closing their one exit route out of Gaza.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/15/rafah-border-crossing-could-egypt-open-it-to-fleeing-palestinians

yep sounds about right

[–] fif-t@fedia.io 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The Philadelphi corridor, which is the border separating Egypt and Gaza is currently controlled by and occupied by Israel, as they refused to withdraw from it as stipulated in the previous ceasefire agreement that they largely ignored.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/israel-withdraw-philadelphi-corridor-stipulated-ceasefire/story?id=119249232

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

And what is Egypt doing about that?

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

you think egypt is not a dictatorahip that was installed by the US and other Gulf's dictatorships who all work under Israel's and US's shoes?

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

installed by the US during the Arab Spring?

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

this is why you need to search and read history to understand instead of commenting like clueless and stupid. go ask an egyption in real life, more than one just to be sure. or use google, or search up the egyption coup protest slaughteter videos, that cannot be on youtube unless very censored. also watch and read how Obama and hilary moved to replace eygpt's democratic leader with the miltarty coup leader with $100+ billions from UAE Saudi arabia and other gulf dictatorships.