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[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 6 points 3 hours ago

I hope she sues them. It’s the only way these shitty companies will learn.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If anyone questions actual trans women, they should say they were only in the women's washroom to look for other males.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 32 minutes ago

Not so keen on your use of "other" here.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 34 points 19 hours ago

Are ya feeling safer, fellow women?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 77 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait wait wait... So a man barges into a women's bathroom to pull out a woman just to make sure there are no men in there

My mind is stuck in an endless logic loop

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The women in the bathroom complained so there is more than this guard at play

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 31 minutes ago

Oh yes, you're right. What's at play is plain anti trans discrimination pushed by a government wanting to distract the populace from looking while they rob the state blind

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 32 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

The Liberty Hotel initially defended the guard’s actions in a now-retracted statement, claiming “several guests alerted security about two adults occupying a single bathroom stall” and asserting that a physical altercation occurred. Baker and Victor denied those claims outright.

“If that’s what he thought the issue was once he opened the stall door, obviously there was only one person in there, so it should’ve been case closed,” Victor said. “Let her tie up her shorts and go about her day.”

So the guard actually opened the stall door while she was still using the toilet, found a woman in there, and then stuck around to demand ID to prove she was a woman? What a weird thing to do.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Where does the article say that?

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 minutes ago

“ The Liberty Hotel initially defended the guard’s actions in a now-retracted statement, claiming “several guests alerted security about two adults occupying a single bathroom stall” and asserting that a physical altercation occurred. Baker and Victor denied those claims outright.”

[–] MiyamotoKnows@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago

The worst part is they suspended him versus firing his creepy ass.

[–] Jaybob32@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is bad. But what really struck me was that a hotel had a guard? Do you have guards EVERYWHERE?

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

Reminded me of a comment a colleague made during a hotel stay in the US, "they got six people greeting me as I enter the lobby but no one to fix my shower".

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Tucson here: armed and unarmed guards are really common at low-class-linked businesses like thrift stores, Fry’s supermarkets, Walmart, Dollar stores, Walgreens/CVS. God forbid someone steal food or pharmacy items like shavers (shaver cartridges here are crazy expensive if you get name brand). Walgreens/CVS also has a tendency to lock the shelves behind plexiglass so you have to ask for help to buy more expensive items.

In some cases, these kind of stores are targeted specifically. There are shopping centers with higher end restaurants that coexist with super high theft locations literally within walking distance.

TLDR: it’s mostly to abate crimes of poverty

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In the US? Only if there's money.

Guards are only to protect assets not people. When I used to Metro in the Pentagon you would see four or five armed guards with m4s and body armor protecting the carts of the money for the Metro machines. They could give two shits about anyone else.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I rode some light rail trains in Mexico. The guards were putting money on boxes and I though it was a thought provoking photo. So I took the shot. Apparently they thought so too. They followed me and asked me to removed the photo because it was my first offense. Fuck that I've never been back in 35 years.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 minutes ago

Oof, and back then that would mean losing the whole roll of film, right? Screw that.

[–] paperazzi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I feel like this is a very abridged version of an interesting story.

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[–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 136 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Anybody remember those SNL skits where a character named Pat was not clearly male or female, and the whole joke was how everyone was just confused about how to address them but still ended up being polite and friendly? I don't understand how our culture got from there to people demanding proof of gender from strangers.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 63 points 1 day ago
[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

And what's more, ignoring that proof even when presented.

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

i love movies like that, too, but it definitely wasn't popular when it was released. and pat was always the butt of the joke. i also have to check my "but we cured racism in the 90s" indoctrination sometimes. fresh prince made me think things were a lot better than they really were back then.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

fresh prince made me think things were a lot better than they really were back then.

Fresh Prince had a lot of references to the fact that racism was alive and well in the 90s. Many of those episodes also focus around the theme that even though the Banks' were wealthy, it still didn't stop them from being discriminated against, and even caused discrimination from other black people.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

The white cops were ready to pepper spray the Banks’ until his white partner shows up

[–] exasperation@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's Pat, the movie, was a notorious commercial bomb, and sold basically no tickets.

It was made, though, because the recurring SNL sketch was popular enough to attract the investment.

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I was a kid when SNL was still airing those skits and they didn’t feel enlightened to me at all. Like, this is the same show that “joked” that Brandon Teena (who was already known to be murdered at that point) deserved to die for reporting his rape. Like, not as a shocking thing a heel would say, just a crass joke. It was hilarious to people then, that’s the environment It’s Pat is in.

The 90s were fucked up, y’all.

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 93 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So, why is it OK for guard man to go inside if there might be a man in there? Does this not double the number of men in the bathroom? I don't understand bigot logic. The women joining in like that is appalling.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

The most shocking thing to me is the women. That random women in line said such things indicates to me that there are bigots everywhere.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"When I do it it's Morally Right™" Is their basic justification.

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[–] doug@lemmy.today 112 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My wife and I went to what we thought was a suuuuper leftist bar in Berlin; Marxist stuff all over the walls, anti-Nazi stuff, etc., but the bartender stopped my wife from entering the restroom, accusing them of not being a cis woman. Sullied the whole goddamn vibe of the place.

TERFs are such awkward bigots in that they have no endgame other than to see your fuckin’ genitals. No safety, no greater good, just do you have a dick or not?

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

now ma'am, I believe that you were born a biological woman like you're saying, but its company policy that I gotta see that pussy

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 98 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That’s sexual assault, no?

You don't get it, its to protect the women! /s

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 1 day ago

Just start denying any male who don't look like a bodybuilder in the mens room pretty sure then stuff would get figured out.

[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hopefully TERFs will learn at some point that discrimination against trans women also harms cis women and empowers the patriarch.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 1 day ago

TERFs love the patriarchy, they aren't feminist at all.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait wait

They want the woman to go to the men's room???

😵‍💫

Or... Or, is it that maybe gender is like maybe a lil bit gray, and the officer made a mistake? 🧐

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 76 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I saw a picture of the lady. She is tall, has short hair and kind of masculine facial features, but none of that is an excuse. The male security guard demanded to see her genitals to prove she was female. Female bathrooms only have stalls. Even if she had been a trans woman, no one else in the bathroom would have ever seen her naked crotch and she wouldn't have seen theirs. The story here is a MALE hotel employee went into a FEMALE BATHROOM and demanded to see a woman's genitals because she didn't look girly enough for his standards.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I didn't see in the article where the guard asked to see the woman's genitals. That aside, I hope that the woman at least gets a very substantial payout from this harassment.

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