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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Fucking identity politics. Democrats love that shit more than life itself.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 49 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Or, and hear me out, the Democrat establishment don't like having young progressives in charge of things.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

They’ll ~~take~~ demand our votes, though.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I just want establishment dems to come out and tell us what their vision of the future is. You can tell me, "they already have" but if that's the case their messaging sucks or their vision of the future sucks.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago

"Nothing will fundamentally change."

That's their vision.

[–] FrostBlazer@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Their answer would be “change nothing really until we’re retired” and “you can make the rules when it’s your turn”. That’s mostly what it boils down to for many of them. The “I’m the one currently benefiting from the status quo so why would I rock the boat” types specifically.

I really don’t expect big changes for another decade because then the demographics will change more for who is in office for the House and Senate. Even then though I’m not optimistic that things will really change for the better until another 10 years after that from looking at how Gen X voted most recently, which was more conservative than the boomers.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Then say it. Pussies. Or keep losing to an orange baffoon.

[–] FrostBlazer@lemm.ee 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

It’s backwards regressivism and self-centered governance. It’s really not even about him really, he’s just the most exaggerated parts of it front and center.

They won’t openly say anything that costs them their cushy desk job in the Senate or House, but even Pelosi expresses this sentiment of “wait till we’re done and then you progressives will get your chance”. It’s a totally self-serving mindset and ignores the real problems people are facing that could be addressed by them taking action.

I think some politicians are learning and are trying to change, but the ones twiddling their thumbs or are enabling issues should be definitely be primaried though.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago

or their vision of the future sucks

It's this one

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 34 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

So, the DNC is more concerned about goddamned identity politics than it is about saving democracy from Fascism and improving material conditions for all Americans.

This is why the Democratic Party keeps losing, and rightly so.

Fuck, I hate us almost as much as I hate the GOP.

[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 30 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

the DNC is more concerned about goddamned identity politics

They don't actually care about identity politics, this is a flimsy pretext to protect corrupt dems who are elected in deep blue territory

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This. Whenever you have a question about why some organization does something it's generally a safe bet to start with 'because money.' In this case, holding onto the verified fundraising power of incumbents and not offending rich donors.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

So, in light of this, and things like Citizens United, what are we supposed to do about all this? We can’t compete with those big dollars at scale.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 hours ago

Eat the rich, baby.

No incumbents campaign. Sure we might blow up the party but it deserves it.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

If you can stuff it with dollars you can stuff it with bullets much cheaper

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

What do you mean 'us'?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

But remember: If you don’t vote for them you’re a terrible person.

[–] miguel@fedia.io 18 points 13 hours ago

If only dems were even half as tough on actual fascists as they are on progressives.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 20 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Good! The LAST thing we Want as Democrats is ANY sort of Change at ALL! We'll LOSE to a Nazi for a THIRD Time if it means Rich People CONTINUE to Be Rich! Also we KNOW Trump is JUST JOKING about Jailing Us!

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago

Hogg celebrated the defeat of Mary Peltola in Alaska because she disagreed with him on gun control. If anything, he is less committed to fighting Trump than he is bringing the Democratic Party strictly in line with his beliefs.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago

Corporate democrats desperate to maintain status quo

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

When people argue for starting political parties from nothing, this is what I think they're not considering. Political parties - actual, legitimate parties, not cults now - are difficult to manage.

Cults are easy once you have someone they'll all be a sucker to.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

What's the L / C/ R meter meant to represent exactly?

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

It's from Ground News. It shows coverage in media across the left/right spectrum.
It allows for easier evaluation whether it is actual news and not something just pushed by one side.

In this particular case I'd say it's a reasonable distribution. There are more right wing outlets, and they prefer to push anything that resembles discord in the DNC. Otherwise they'd have to report on their own team and try to sell the actual news from there as a good thing.

[–] The2b@lemmy.vg 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

How much the story is appearing in Left/Center/Rightwing media

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If Hogg is going to be harping on about gun control in that role as he has in the past then he does need to go. It's a losing issue and he will bring that baggage to sink the rest of the platform. Instead, make everything about protecting rights and freedoms.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I cant blame a school shooting survivor to be a little opinioned on gun issues.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That's the problem with him in a leadership role, is that it's like a banner he carries that defines him to the public. Basically a flag that says Democrats 4 Gun Bans to public perception. And this loses votes.

Meh, I dont follow the belief that gun regulations couldn't be more popular.

If I were Hogg I would just focus on stronger communities means less gun violence.