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No buddy, the Constitution is supposed to protect the people from fuck nuggets like Trump.

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[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, I feel like the Supreme Court brought this upon themselves. They made Trump untouchable and now he's using what they gave him.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah. As utterly stupid as the argument sounds, he can't be prosecuted for any official acts and he can pardon anyone who enacts his will, so his administration can deny anyone their constitutional rights and escape accountability.

That's not the same as saying folks don't have rights, but effectively they can be denied any meaningful opportunity to exercise them, without consequence. Someone has a right to a trial? You and what army are going to get to his cell to take them before a judge? No army? Then good luck getting him to court because anyone preventing you from doing so is immune to legal action and anyone NOT preventing you is fired.

The Supreme Court has issued some terrible rulings in the last twenty years. "Democracy is autocracy" is some 1984-level shit.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

...and he can pardon anyone who enacts his will...

Only for federal charges. If people are breaking state laws to push his agenda, he cannot pardon them. It's a little thing, but it's something.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's the job of Congress to hold the president accountable.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 58 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You heard the lawyer, no life, liberty or happiness for Trump.

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

That's the Declaration of Independence.

[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 48 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Then why did he swear an oath to it both times he was sworn in?

[–] LaterRedditor@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

He did not put his hands on the Bible for a reason

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Because it burns?

[–] Acid2688@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

That's not really a part of it

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I’ve read you don’t really need to. As long as you uphold the law. It’s fine.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Because he knew nobody would actually enforce it.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if a Biden lawyer has made that argument.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

You don't need to. Obama wore a tan suit like a male model and the GOP shat a forest of redwoods.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

Gee, maybe the Supreme Court shouldn't have set that precedent for him.

[–] mdalin@infosec.pub 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm just as frustrated and horrified by what's going on as everyone else, but this headline is SUCH a stretch. Like, 98% click bait, 2% kinda-sorta truth. PLEASE read the actual article and not just the headline.

This story is about a specific legal mechanism (universal injunction) that has been used by federal judges in dozens of cases throughout decades. It's a controversial mechanism that has been used on both sides of the political spectrum. Sometimes for better, sometimes for worse. It's currently being used to pause some of Trump's worst bullshit.

Trump's lawyers are arguing that this very specific mechanism shouldn't be permitted in current cases regarding immigration. They've also argued that this particular mechanism is unconstitutional. His lawyers are wrong, and shitty, but they are in no way arguing that "the constitution doesn't apply to the president."

[–] CarrierLost@infosec.pub 15 points 2 months ago

I guess that includes the Bill of Rights?

Next Democrat president better be a dictator handing out gulags to racists while putting money into lgbt causes. Trump says the president has dictatorial power, fucking go for it then.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 8 points 2 months ago

I honestly can't tell if these people believe their own bullshit or just this craven.

[–] Poach@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"All men are created equal". Some are more equal than others it seems.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Looking from pig to man and man to pig, impossible to tell which is which

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Sounds like he wants a military coupe? I mean if it doesn't apply to the President you're not really in charge of the military.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Guess he shouldn't have taken the oath... Twice. The masses won't care.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

That's the document literally describing what a president is and what it can do... Claiming it "doesn't apply" is not even a coherent argument