" built-in backdoors,"
Good luck getting that into a lot of the open source tech we now use.
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Simple: the open source tech is now illegal unless they can afford a full time legal team.
It's regulatory capture: the big firms get consulted by the EU and can design the laws to the detriment of competition. It's why now, for example, european cars are so expensive and restricted to a handfull of producers.
Alphabet and friends welcome regulation like this.
Only the headline asserts "built-in backdoors", the actual link... not so much.
A reasonable reading of the proposal, assuming it came into effect, is that ISPs, banks, telcos etc would be asked to retain certain records for a number of months or years in a harmonised way. Law enforcement agencies would be required to ask for it in the exact same way they ask for records right now and all the rules concerning GDPR etc would still apply.
Open source tech has zero to do with it, it's a matter of policy.
The only wrinkle there is "voluntary compliance," which might be construed as warrantless access.
This is something you'd expect in North Korea
(Europeans rather than Americans in this case, but you get the point.
They always say North Korea or China, not Japan, South Korea, or anything from Southeast Asia.
We don't have an equivalent in Europe or in America yet, (Although America is doing the work to get there fast, and there are similar people trying to get Europe there.) but the equivalent we did have last century is still referenced in these kinds of threads. Perhaps even more so than the two examples you don't want to be used.
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Even as an American, this is terrifying. Everyone knows my country is shit, but I've always seen you guys as the gold standard and for this kind of thing to even be discussed over on your side of the pond is absolutely horrifying....
It's a specific group within the EU that's trying to do this.
Like those Project 2025 people.
This has widespread support under MEPs, accross party lines. It's only Germany and Poland that opposed it last time. (1)
And Germany won't oppose this time because the government is righ wing as hell.
Is there a list of those who support?
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always seen you guys as the gold standard
In the land of the blind
If the bottom of the barrel is what you're trying to compare a golden coated shit is taking all the money.
Lol I mean, nobody is perfect, but you guys have things like freedom of movement (even between countries) and France and Germany pushing open source software forward for the sake of privacy, security, flexability and community. Plus, you guys seem to have a mindset of "until it's proven safe, it will be illigal" compared to our "until it is proven UNsafe, it will be legal". Maybe "gold standard" isn't the best term, but I feel like you guys have better way of thinking about the world
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Every year they try to push this same shit with a new name. One day there will be a reichstag fire and it will be passed.
So fucking transparant, yet I don't see a way to stop them.
The rough quote is, we have to win against this every time. They only have to win once.
Pretty straightforward: join anarchist groups like the ccc and the fau, vote radical left and tell everyone you know to do the exact same. It already helps in some areas, just keep doing it.
And how do you ensure that the "radical left" doesn't support surveillance measures? Not like the ideology has a good track record on that matter.
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Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
They already see the coming day. This is why they want the control and enhanced viability
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This is to make sure VPNs have to retain data and zero logging will be illegal
They have been a thorn in the side of Disney, Netflix, Amazon and HBO for years.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I wouldn't be aware of it otherwise. For what its worth, I left my ideas as feedback there.
Also, I would just like to point out that before lemmy (and subscribing to various EU communities) I was not at all active in voicing my opinion about such things as I didn't have any idea that it was even possible/how to do it. Lemmy as a whole has helped me become more active in this regard :D
I have also left some feedback for the first time!
I tried posting on reddit, but it's blocked for some reason.
To the EU:
At least they give a platform for people to speak out and it's public, but yes disappointing although if you see the other cross-posts some are not straight talking about the risks other than just saying it's about mass surveillance or metadata collection which could ring less alarm bells for people reading it (i know mass surveillance should be enough but oh well)
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Its refreshing to see people care about this subject outside of privacy forums.
Im sure the agencies that do monitor us have stopped potential threats, but there is a fine line between this and having secret police.
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