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But piracy is a crime...
EDIT: This guy is a clown
So it's only piracy when poor people do it?
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Poor people aren't "running an industry"
Napster was…but it wasn’t owned by rich people and didn’t benefit rich people so it was targeted.
Sounds okay to me. Fuck the AI industry.
Asking banks for permission would kill the robbery imdustry.
Then let AI die. What has it done, other than make us stupider?
Hey now, be fair; It’s guzzled down all of our water too.
Kill the artist industry. Oh yeah, rich cunts in England think art isn't a real career
I said this in another thread about this piece so I’m gonna paste it here again. Sorry those of you who maybe saw it lol:
This is the same shit sites like YouTube use to get out of being accountable for anything they do. “We are too big. It is unreasonable to ask us to follow the law. So our benchmark of what a good faith attempt should suffice.”
Motherfucker then don’t be so big! If I’m a real estate developer and my building collapses killing 100 people, I can’t go “my empire is too big. It is unreasonable to expect me to follow all the various codes and ordinances designed to keep people safe.“
Unless you're friends with the right people.
I mean yes to some extent, but at the end of the day, tech moguls get a lot more latitude for ruinin lives than executives in a lot of other industries. How many stories have we read of fake nudes of children being spread around schools? AI getting people to commit suicide? Bigoted bots?
We’ve got Teslas literally running over people in the street and nothing fucking happens.
You're not wrong, this world is a messed up place.
truth
Isn't it true that historically when universities trained these things, they used their own data, "not randos on the internet" or "anything that wasn't nailed down" (random scraped copyrighted content).
GenAI could be ethical, it just, isn't, because corporations are assholes.
Then it deserves to die.
So what's the downside?
It doesn't actually kill AI, it would just kill any open source solution and create a monopoly for the handful of companies that either have all the data or can afford to pay for it.
There's like 5 publishing houses, 3 record companies and a couple of websites that "own" almost all training material.
Lol lmao
That's only if they want to try tonprofit off of it.
Free use still allows you to train your own AI.
And the tech would be better if nobody profited off of AI
Copy left license would be the best scenario but I don't think that is what we are getting sadly. That being said, you need the big foundational models. The average individual cannot train their own AI from scratch.
AI has brought nothing of value to the table. Just another grift.
If anything, it's delgitimized the actually useful ML projects in medicine and data processing.
Don't tempt me with a good time
You're saying that like it's a bad thing?
If it kills the ai industry thats fine. They can't survive in our current system with IP laws they shouldn't survive.
Then it should die.
Nick Clegg can go fuck himself!
scribbles notes Oh good!
The solution presents itself!
That is how I feel about banks and money
Dunno who this guy is, but he's either a techbro or doesnt know what hes talking about. It will kill LLM's and the art bots that work by stealing data, but thats not how all AI is trained. Make actual AI and not theft-bot and you wont have that problem.
Promise?
k
Ok
You mean how laws stop the theft industry, and the murder industry... Like they should
REALLY????
Took a minute to figure out that this wasn't https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Clegg 🙀
Edit: Okay turns out it is the nick the useless clegg i thought it was some namesake since the photo in article looked different to what i remember... Wow what a bastard...
...but it is that Nick Clegg
What what?! 😦 Looks like i lived under a rock 🤯
It is, unfortunately.
As policy makers in the UK weigh how to regulate the AI industry, Nick Clegg, former UK deputy prime minister and former Meta executive, claimed a push for artist consent would “basically kill” the AI industry.
Oh wow 😯😳 okay i lived under a rock, did not see that happening 😞