I know we've been crossing a lot of lines over the last several months but this seems like a big one.
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They ALL seem like big ones, but then we get over and shift that much further into authoritarianism.
It’s called Hypernormalisation, and Adam Curtis did an interesting documentary about it back in 2016ish
So...how close are we to that point where other countries open their doors to us under asylum laws? I mean, Trump's siccing the military on people and it's not even 6 months into his term yet.
There exist countries that have already offered safe haven/asylum to US'ians... Especially to LGBTQ.
Links, please? I haven't seen anything suggesting that, yet.
I'm probably OK. I'm straight. I'm White. Though I am agnostic and don't buy the State Religion behind Project 2025.
My wife, however, is Black, Bisexual, and Pagan, four strikes, and now I'm a race traitor for having married her, so there's my strike.
Just go North. That was key in slavery and Vietnam. And today.
Just to point out it doesn't matter how white you are if you say something they don't agree with.
Or do something they don't agree with. Like marrying a Black bisexual pagan woman.
Or even look at them wrong.
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My google-fu hasn't up to this point. In fact, I get lots of results saying that Americans are not welcome as asylum seekers in my googling. Your single link only shows places that take American immigrants, not places welcoming American refugees. In fact, New Zealand is suffering from a Conservative-inflicted recession that is making things difficult for immigrants and natives alike, and Australia has some serious restrictions on immigrants (a close friend of mine did that route and barely made the cut). And Canada? Despite a victory for the Liberal Party and 'elbows up' regarding American rhetoric, they still have lots of people angry about how immigration has been handled.
If you actually have links to help get victimised people out of the USA, maybe instead of 'why don't u google it urself', maybe post those links. That's FAR more helpful than the whole 'go do it urself!' response. :)
From a non- paywall article about Hannah Kreager:
Her pending claim for protection in the Great White North could be a landmark case, the American believes.
'I'm here in Canada with a terrific lawyer taking up my unprecedented case: seeking asylum from the United States of America on the grounds of violation of human rights,' she posted online.
'My case is a precedent-setting one, and if successful, could make asylum for trans people in the U.S. possible.'
I hope she's successful. The Safe Third Country agreement needs to be ended. Until that time, the path to claiming refuge status from the US will be extremely expensive and onerous and not likely to be successful. The canadian government needs to be called out on their hypocrisy and refusal to 'rock the boat' by ending it.
Thanks for these. They don't make it clear that Canada is a valid destination for LGBTQ+ folks to seek asylum from, but they do indicate that there is discussion in Canada. Have to see how the referenced cases go, though.
I think there is a gross overestimation of the support that is available. I've seen a lot of bad articles copying and pasting different parts of immigration policy and programs but without understanding how it works as a whole.
Like, Canada has a website about helping LGBTQI+ refugees ( https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/refugees/about-refugee-system/2slgbtqi-plus.html ) and it includes partnerships with groups like Rainbow Railroad who can refer people in need of resettlement to the refugee process.
But if you only look at that and fail to consider the safe third country agreement, you're giving false hope.
Taking in refugees is not very popular at the moment.
Bullshit. It is popular.
But the two sects of the big one party are both anti people
Just like the 1930s. By the time countries will open their doors to the oppressed in the USA, we'll be rolling our own ovens here.
Happening already. US trans people are coming to Canada and applying for asylum now.
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If the Marines want to uphold their oaths, they'll start fighting the cops.
I haven't met a marine that doesn't support Trump, soooo...
But Smedly Butler was pretty clear and they worship him
This is key to swaying Marines.
The republican brain knows no bounds when it comes to dissonance.
So for all the "The US military will not take illegal orders from Donald Trump!" crowd, there's your answer.
For years before Trump came along, people were ragging on the military and law enforcement for being low-IQ, over-armored people who liked the power trip of essentially playing a live game of Call of Duty and being able to project their power onto others. What makes you think that changed?
Now those same low-IQ people who are acting like it's a live game of COD get to shoot people they don't like with impunity. You think they're gonna abandon Trump? LOLOLOL. He just gave them the opportunity to live their dream. They get to fire into large crowds and treat every invasion of some random guy's home like a Seal-Team-Six mission where they're going after Osama Bin Laden himself. They're not gonna abandon Trump. They'll make the MAGA hat an official part of the uniform before that happens.
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Any marine who follows this order is a traitor to the United States.
Guess 700 Marines are about to be traitors to the United States.
Fascism at work.
The saying “once in a lifetime events” needs to be changed to “well 5mins ago”
Just leave a box of red crayons on the ground and you'll be safe.
What's with all these crayon memes?
Long running military in joke is that Marines are crayon eaters
Coming soon to a city near you.
The mass shootings will begin.
We are so very fucked
They do this without controversy and yet when I, Antifa President John Antifa, deploy the HRT Super Soldiers, suddenly antifa is the villains?
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