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[–] Nounka@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Some off them i see more as unfawfull ( when noboddy is looking ) evil

[–] psud@aussie.zone 6 points 7 hours ago

Remember there's the neutral axis

Some are chaotic neutral. They're not out to wreck stuff, they just don't care if they do

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 37 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world -3 points 4 hours ago

Still evil.

[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 23 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

unless by lawful you mean they manipulate the law however they please with their money and connections, then no.

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 hours ago

um, yeah. that's literally the difference.

lawful evil is "evil in a suit and tie" while chaotic evil is "monstrous, uncivilized evil."

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

That's the entire schtick of lawful evil. Manipulation, extortion, background deals, and all that.

[–] Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

You miss the point of the law

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 69 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 hours ago

I guess it’s meant to say the law is whatever they say it is.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 39 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, there is a convicted felon and an illegal immigrant right there.

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 38 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'd put Trump and Musk into 'chaotic'

Definitely evil though.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

No need to describe them in any way but just ...

Evil

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 44 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Hahahahaha Hahaha haha "Lawful"

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 72 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Fun fact none of them are lawful

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 30 points 19 hours ago

They paid congress a lot of money to say that they actually are lawfull

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

In the d&d alignment chart they are because capitalists have no inherent power outside of the laws that enforce their property. Devils in D&D will always break the rules(and rebel) if they think they can get away with it.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Huh? Devils are the corporate "trap you in fineprint and kill you with subclauses" type of evil. They are the ones who sell you the monkey's paw and come to collect your soul no matter how it shakes out. Catching them in airtight clauses (or narrow loopholes) is famously how you screw over devils.

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 40 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Trump is more Chaotic Evil

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Facts. D&D defines the chaotic/lawful divide as whether or not the character abides by a code, ethos, or set of rules. So not "Law" in the "Legal Eagle Law Team" kind of way. Chaotic Evil characters don't really play by any rules, are unpredictable, and are just plain the worst.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Slightly debatable which version of evil is the worst. I'd agree that I'd probably rather have a Lawful Evil head of state right now than what we've got.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Sounds like all of them.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 16 hours ago

It's why he's not a billionaire. Zing!

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 221 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

Trump is a felon, so I am not sure "lawful" is the best fit.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 81 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

The lawful/chaotic axis represents a person's willingness to follow an external set of rules against their own instincts or opinions. Having a pocket judge or a pocket president to legitimize one's actions does not make that person lawful.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 50 points 23 hours ago (8 children)

Trump isn't a felon... He's a multi-felon.

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[–] laserm@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago

Nah, don't forget that DJT is a convicted felon.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 35 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Laser@feddit.org 32 points 20 hours ago

As in can dictate law

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 16 points 19 hours ago

As in “full of law”

Like, just jam-packed stuffed to the gills with law, to the point where they vomit law out into the world and we all boil to death slowly in their law-infused stomach acid

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 81 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A couple of them might be chaotic.

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