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CNN data guru Harry Enten broke down the latest polling in the Democratic Party on views toward Israel and the Palestinians on Wednesday and marveled at the massive shift in attitudes, declaring he’s “rarely” seen anything like it in his many years of looking at polling data.

Enten spoke to anchor Kate Bolduan in the context of Zohran Mamdani’s sweeping victory over ex-Gov. Andrew Cuomo in New York City’s Democratic Party mayoral primary last week.

"What are we talking about here? All right, who do Democrats sympathize more with: Israelis or Palestinians? In 2017, the Democratic Party was a pro-Israeli party. Look at this. They sympathized with the Israelis by 13 points—more with the Israelis than the Palestinians. But look at this sea change. Now, Democrats sympathize more with the Palestinians by 43 points.Oh my God! That is a change in the margin of 56 points over the course of just eight years. So all of a sudden, it’s the pro-Palestinian position that actually reigns supreme in Democratic politics, not the Israeli position. And that is part of the reason why Mamdani was able to do so well in this primary, because those attacks over Israel, simply put, did not ring true for Democrats"

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Genocide will do that

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

“Andrew Cuomo, during the primary, attacked Mamdani as being insufficiently pro-Israel.

The most expensive primaries in US history were in 2024 where zionist supremacists/AIPAC funded DNC opponents to those insufficiently submissive to zionist first rule over America. The only successful attack campaigns were those that never mentioned Israel supremacy as an issue. Only other issues.

The Green party can win with 0 money by saying all Israel first loyalty oaths by politicians invalidate their citizenship and right to office. The DNC simply doesn't want to win. Like Chuck Schumer admission, the DNC exists to gaslight the left into being pro Israel. Fundraising is always nice, but winning is not the most pro Israel result.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone in NYC has an opinion about the Middle East, but Mamdani got elected because he said he will only work for the 5 boros. His focus is correctly on NYC, and that’s what he campaigned on. At the end of the day that conflict is half a world away; and we’ve got shit here we have for fix.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Don't have to fix it, just not actively support it

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 27 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I doubt Israel and Palestine had that much of an effect on the New York city mayoral race. Just because this guy is Muslim they are making all these crazy assumptions. Frankly it seems a little racist at this point and super embarrassing to watch

[–] jollyroberts@jolly-piefed.jomandoa.net 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Agreed. I think Mamdani won the primary on more of a "he is not a sex pest" vibe than his views on international politics.

At least that's the impression I got based on my wife's conversations with her friends.

I voted for him too, but more because he seems like he actually wants to try to make people's lives better. I don't think he will be able to accomplish most of what he is promising, but I do think he is going to at least /try/ to improve things.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I have nothing to do with NY and with any luck I never will. But kudos to you looking out for yourselves and not electing absolute monsters. US politics are so.obvious to people outside, you guys are as sheltered as north korea.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 10 points 10 hours ago

Asking someone running for mayor about international politics seems like a real "sir, this is a Wendy's" moment.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 18 hours ago

Yes, committing active and rapid genocide out in the open will do that

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 32 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

I was kind of on Iseral's side in the beginning. 1200 dead for no reason?

Then I found out Iseral started murdering peaceful prostestors before Hamas came over. Fuck Iseral and their bullshit.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 20 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Even Hamas tried peaceful protests in 2017 and Israel murdered them.

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 18 points 20 hours ago

Israel has a long and fucked up history. They're like a little ADHD fucker in the playground with the huge older brother and a father as the head school administrator. No one dare punch the little fucker in the face.

Whenever someone claims they are "gods people", you're going to have a bad time.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Me 3 years ago, somewhat ignorant: “I’m okay with sending bombs to Israel.”

Me, today: “I’m okay with ‘sending’ bombs to Israel.”

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 18 hours ago

The important difference between "send them quickly" and "send them fast"

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Younger democrats...18-49....the fuck. Doing some heavy lifting with that younger phrase calling 40-50 younger 😂

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 5 points 20 hours ago

1/2 of the people in politics in the USA remember eating woolly mammoth burgers, so there's that.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 12 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

What's that bullshit about Mamdani facing criticism about not being outspoken enough against antisemitism?

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 10 hours ago

They'll go on and on about antisemitism (which often is just criticism of a nation-state, so not actually antisemitism), but then it's deafening silence when it comes to racism against black people. Systemic discrimination against people of color is still alive and well in the U.S. But when have you heard this administration talk about it.

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Same spin on all people calling for an end of war since Netanyahu decided that being against the genocide was antisemitic.

Same shit when any individual with an even remote arabian origin needs time and again to formally condemn islamist terrorist attacks, otherwise they're instantly labeled terrorist supporters or some shit.

So be prepared to read a lot about "ambiguous position" on antisemitism because no matter what he says or does, they need to slap that label on him.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

I wonder how these people would feel when they find out "islamist terrotists" attack muslims more than any other group also.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

It's probably the escalation of the genocide. If Israel were to stop committing genocide and move to reconcile and take actions to prevent it in thr future I'm pretty sure most of us would be open to reevaluating our position. Plenty of us like the modern Germany after all.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago

Plenty of us like the modern Germany after all.

I've got bad news for you about modern Germany

A non-genocidal apartheid state is still an apartheid state.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world -4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Genocide isnt necessarily a bad thing, depending on who is being genocided. Take Nazis and white supremacists, for example....

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Races and cultures get genocided. You don't genocide ideas. You are talking about the extermination of people who don't think like you. This is not part of the paradox of intolerance. Re-education is the only solution barring becoming the monster you are trying to destroy.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Didnt seem to work for fascism or the confederacy; why do you think it will work now?

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