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"There must be more to life than having everything”, the note read.
Donald: Yes, there is, but I won’t tell you what it is
Jeffrey: Nor will I, since I also know what it is
Donald: We have certain things in common, Jeffrey
Jeffrey: Yes, we do, come to think of it
Donald: Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?
Jeffrey: As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you
Trump: A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.
"Never age" ...huh, I wonder what "enigmas" is he referring to?
“Best thing about high school girls is I keep getting older but they stay the same age.”
—Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, probably
Yes thay do. Yes thay do.
I'm sure everyone reading this no2 knows what it referred to.
Lmao, they think they're sooooo clever
Yikes on bikes
Trump was a supplier of girls to Epstein through his pageants. Everyone is saying it.
First time I heard of that and it would be strange for a buyer to become a supplier. "Everyone is saying it." Are you trying to muddy the waters with fake rumors?
I mean, yeah. MAGA is immune to logic and reason, but conspiracies are their refuge from cognitive dissonance. We just have to be willing to weaponize it.
Ok, I see. I don't like that approach, myself. It feels like a short term gain that would turn negative in the long term, when nothing has credibility anymore.
Nothing has credibility now, at least with the MAGAts.
We are at the brink. It would be amazing if facts and logical argument won the day. I'd like to get there again, but when the manosphere or whatever is deciding elections then we have to fight the battle that is before us with the tactics that will get us to that bright future.
Is there evidence of this? Let's wait til there's real evidence, because it's not unlikely.
The interview with his Atlantic City manager said he flew 28 “modeling agency” girls down for a “party” for just him and Epstein. Epstein recruited more than one trafficked girl from trump’s house.
It’s not that much of a stretch, is it.
Yeah, this would have needed something much more serious (than a non fatal chronic condition) to get it buried under the news cycle. A dead VP and Elon would have gotten pretty close. (If anyone from the Whitehouse is looking for suggestions on Lemmy)
which appears to be hand-drawn with a heavy marker
His habits will one day become his downfall
When Trump signed the letter, all hurricanes had womens' names
You mean like doodling things and signing them?
People buying these things for as much as $55.000 is insane.
Is he gonna claim on TruthSocial that Obama went back in time and planted this in Epstein’s book?
I think he's announced a lawsuit against the Wall Street Journal
This could be very good. A lawsuit would keep it in the news, and lying in court is a whole different kettle of fish than lying on truth social. And the veracity of the evidence and any supporting evidence would become public knowledge (probably). It's like "what are you going to do, organize all the evidence you have against me in a clear and persuasive manor?" says man who had evidence against him organized in a clear and persuasive manor, by a news source, and in full view of other news sources.
It'll never happen. As soon as Trump's lawyers explain the discovery process to him again, he'll stop talking about suing and do something bizarre and frightening to distract the media.
TACO Time!
using the autopen
The real story. 🙄
I know this scene and it's KILLING me that I can't remember the movie
It's from The Big Lebowski, the Jackie Treehorn scene.
Thank you!
There was already abundant evidence of Trump's link with Epstein. I think the more interesting aspect of this is that it was published in a Murdoch rag over Trump's protests. It may be evidence the business elites are turning on Trump.
Vance/Heritage and Thiel reign is next. Putin is for it, I bet you anything
oh wow this is actually really bad for him lmfao. if his base was getting pissed before this then it's about to get so much worse for him because that weird typewritten note back and forth between the two.. h'oboy.
Looking at some of the messaging they’re saying it’s a made up hit piece because Trump doesn’t write poetry.
You mean they’re lapping up his shit and learning exactly nothing from any of it?!?
That is so unlike them.
I can't believe people elected a felon grifter criminal liar cheater pervert casino bankrupter with the express goal of burning the country to the ground and THIS might MIGHT be the line they draw in the sand.
Not dismissing this:
A lot of people who are rich or deal with a lot of people, like Donny, have an assistant that deals with the tedious social crap like birthday letters. A great assistant would know to send an appropriate card for a given person. So a devote christian would get a card with something about Jesus and a sex-trafficker would get a lewd sexual card. How much oversight on the cards would depend on the person and a control freak like Donny would probably see the card, chuckle, and sign it.
So Donny sending a card doesn't necessarily imply a close friendship like you would expect with a typical person.
All the same, release the client list and whoever gets nailed to a wall deserves it and it should be a bipartisan issue to keep harassing the admin until they release the names and people go to jail or some other fate.
So Donny sending a card doesn't necessarily imply a close friendship like you would expect with a typical person.
The sad thing is that Trump's friendship with Epstein really does seem to be one of the closest / only friendships of his adult life.
If true, the implications of that are just so fucking disgusting... Because, presumably, it's mainly just the one thing that they have in common
I suppose it's possible that Trump thought that Epstein liked "young but legal" girls. That's who he was often seen in public with. Trump could have bonded with him over that, and never realized that Epstein also liked the ones who were too young to be legal.
For Epstein, it would have been useful for people to know him as "that guy who likes young women, but always of legal age". That way if someone ever spotted him with someone who looked too young, he'd have people coming to his defence saying "hey, he likes them young, but they're always legal."
I'm sure there were some people who knew the truth about Epstein, but what makes the most sense to me is that there was an inner circle that participated in the sex acts with underage girls, and a much bigger outer circle who just thought he liked young women. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to me how so many people with a lot to lose were eager to party with him and didn't try very hard to hide it, like Bill Gates for example.
But yeah, maybe Trump was part of the inner circle. It would hardly be shocking given what we know about him.
There's no way this was written by an assistant. It's very thoughtfully written, playful and coy, betraying an intimacy
Article is paywalled, but here's another with a description and partial text of the letter:
Yeah, WSJ gift links have a view count cap. Hence the archive link above. I'll edit with a fresh gift link, but it'll likely run out too.
Never met him. Wish him well.
And the cheap sonofabitch, can you believe it, he pulled out a pen, scribbled over the '0' from "50" and handed it to his date. Sad.
and the future president’s signature is a squiggly “Donald” below her waist, mimicking pubic hair
How long until the marching order to the MAGA influencers is: "Well, there's proof that Trump isn't a pedophile, if he was, why would he be doodling pubic hair?! Case Closed!"
It contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand-drawn with a heavy marker. A pair of small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts, and the future president’s signature is a squiggly “Donald” below her waist, mimicking pubic hair.