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[–] Lofi_Haze@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago

Can someone tell me if people are actually doing this or just using VPNs? Or what other routes are there around this?

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 25 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

See, there are a few ways this could go.

  1. Age verification is as secure and private as promised, and it's left at that. I like to call this "the miracle", and we all know those don't happen.

  2. Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a government asks for "access to data to prevent crime" - things degenerate from there. This is the "systemic failure" scenario.

  3. Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but new scams evolve around it to make it dangerous. This would be the "criminal element" scenario.

  4. Age verification is not as secure and private as promised, and a leak occurs destroying lives and careers. This is the "system failure" scenario.

  5. Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a few companies start scraping and selling data, leading to widespread harms. This is the "unethical merchant" scenario, and the most likely outcome.

All in all, there is only one "ok" scenario, and a lot of horrific ones. The math says we're entirely boned ^_^

[–] D_Air1@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Or all of the above while still not being "as secure and private as promised".

[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Nothing is ever as secure and private as promised.

4, as it's already happening. It's just to be seen if people will have their lives ruined

[–] ThatKomputerKat@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Already been seeing bullshit “age verification” scams in replies on mastodon for over a week now. I’m sure they’re all over the commercial platforms.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 1 points 6 hours ago

Five seems to be the most plausible. Although knowing how shit corporate security is, I foresee a mix of three and four being common.

[–] londos@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

On the internet everyone will know you're a dog.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago

Mrreow? 😾

[–] queueBenSis@sh.itjust.works 47 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

these laws are all about control and tracking what you do online. they make the internet MORE dangerous, because (as with everything the government restricts or bans) there will be a black market, which is always more dangerous and exposes people to more things than they were looking for in the first place. you think dark web providers are gonna make you upload your id to stay compliant? no, they’re gonna continue anonymously operating through TOR and serve up some very questionably sourced content to those teens that are searching “boobs” and can no longer access pornhub

[–] G4Z@feddit.uk 5 points 7 hours ago

Fuck it, let's get back to something like the way it was.

Anonymous, amateur, just slightly hard to access to keep the mouth breathers out.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 9 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I really, really dont want to search for porn on the dark net...

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

That’s what this is going to become. And that’s another point to this. They can just go after people using the dark net claim it was for kiddie porn even if it wasn't. the masses will just believe them.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Premiumporn.org

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

There's like a gazillion porn sites on the clearnet though, I can't imagine them being able to track then all

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I am aware of many, I am just saying looking at the dark web is not a good idea because... well... OK we're all adults here. That's where all the CP is and I have no interest in seeing that shit.

[–] RepleteLocum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago)

That’s a kinda not true tho. There is a fuck ton of cp on the clear web. The only thing I can say, is that Twitter used to have a lot of spam posts with links to cp.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

There is so much of it on the internet in general that you can’t really do much about it. On top of the fact it is still all over torrent websites as well.

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[–] jpablo68@infosec.pub 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well time to sell thumbdrives to teenagers filled with "tutorials.mp4" and "online class.mp4" lol.

Just give em live distros with tor installed.

[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 12 points 8 hours ago

Sucks, because it's going global and we can't seem to stop it. I'm fine with laws to age gate in terms of a button you click. If some kid is willing to say they're 15... well, let's make sure people are treating them as a 15 year old. But... making everyone deal with real verification is at best going to further entrench big business, and at worst, destroy the internet we love. And it raises the question: are trans teenagers talking to each other now creating adult content because the UK hates trans people?

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 72 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

This isn't about being "age-checked". It's about IDing everyone on the internet and tracking where they go and what they do.

The world we live in is far far worse than anything from 1984.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Exactly this.

Governments have a rock hard boner for detailed face scans of every person.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I think that's the tech side windfall, the age checking is entirely to put road blocks infront of boobies. They it will force places to just not service those regions because of the hurdles of convincing enough people to give their ID, some will, and more over time.

And it now gives I people a reason to actually create fake IDs or just more identity theft uses. Raise the value of obtaining people's ID is the windfall for the data rapers

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 55 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I will not be participating. I'll get around any barriers they put in place.

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 24 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

And if I can't, I'll just stop using the internet for anything I don't absolutely have to.

I don't really need my smartphone. A laptop will do.

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

You don't use the internet on a laptop?

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago

Anything you can do on a smartphone that would require Internet would also require Internet on a laptop no?

I suppose you could download offline installers to a thumb drive at the library or smth

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