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My high school and middle school (they were right next to each other and shared buses) started at 7:15 AM, half the year it was dark when the bus picked us up and we lived in the far south where days didn't get super short. It was bullshit then and it is bullshit now. It was nice to get out of school before 2PM I guess.
When I was able to drive to school I stopped showing up on time and just went in when I was done sleeping and getting ready at my own pace.
Since the whole problem lies with parents' work schedule, we should all push work time to begin at 10am instead of 8am, so kids can get to school a bit later in the morning. Everybody gets to sleep a bit more. Problem fucking solved
But then I would have to work until 8pm. That sounds horrible.
7pm if you take an hour lunch, 6pm if you don't take a lunch.
I've worked a 10-7 shift before. Some people hated it, but I actually loved it. I got to stay up every night to a reasonable 12-1, okay videogames with friends, slept until a nice morning, woke up and drove to work. It was by far the best work shift time I've ever had. It also helped that I lived 3 minutes away, so I would literally wake up at like 9, sss, then drive to work. Saved so much gas at that job hahaha. I'd fill up my Corolla like once a month as long as I didn't visit friends too much. And I was in an apartment with underground parking, so the uv damage to my car was like nothing.
The only downside is you don't get to do errands during the week. Which.... If you plan very very well isn't an issue, but more often than not was an issue.
Schools near me have shifted high school start times to later. Its been that was for years now.
It is really weird to see it in mainstream news now, and even RFK is for it (that fucking weirdo).
I thought letting teens sleep in late was blue state woke and would never be nationwide.
Fox news found a Hypnotist that said teens should sleep later. A hypnotist... really fox? Even when they are right they are still stupid fucks.
Schools - and some businesses - see getting up early as some kind of achievement, a trait to be proud of. A thought that was mirrored in the influencer scene with the insane 'grindset' videos. Get up early and get done more than the others... Completely ignoring that the amount of sleep we need doesn't change with how early you get up.
Some people get up early and have no problem with that, but that's not the case for everyone. In the dawn of time, it was better to have some people who get up early and some who prefer to stay up late: that way the tribe was better protected because the time where everyone was sleeping was minimized.
Now everyone who biologically tends to be more productive when they can work late and get up late is painted as lazy and forced to work against their inner clock.
Actually, many teachers oppose early start times, and perfect attendance awards are disappearing every year, too.
Then you get old and look forward to getting in bed by 8PM.
I guess I never really thought about it. Although now that i have kids that are young, I have to get my kid on a 7:20am bus, which means im up at like 6:45am, every school day, and it sucks. Then I relax for another hour and a half before I start my work at 9 am, lol. I will say the only nice part of starting that early is that they are done by like 2:45 while I am still working until 5 or 6 pm.
Nevermind that I had also been up until 1am having a complete crying breakdown because the printer wouldn't work for whatever assignments. And had only gotten home at 8pm due to extracurriculars running so late.
Hey what's wrong with going to bed at 8pm
My mom don’t get home until 9pm most days from her second job. Sometimes later. My dad was a truck driver so I barely saw him. No one really taught me to take care of myself so I was stuck eating tv dinners most of the time. In that scenario going to sleep at 8pm is damn near impossible.
Now think about what your parents went through
Highschool used to start at 7:00 for me. Then I got into college and I could make my own schedule, so I picked a lot of afternoon classes, it was awesome.
For what it's worth my health class consisted in no small part of a lady from the administrative office who may or may not of even been qualified as a teacher peddling her shit-ass politics.
Started 7:15, lived an hour by bus away so I woke up at 5:10. Bus was at 5:36. That was some uphill both ways shit for me. We did have weekly intermittent afternoon and morning schedules though. So one week we'd start at 7:15 and one week it started at like 2PM. Afternoon weeks were nice when I'd come home at like 9 or 10PM.
Sounds like that would make it impossible to maintain a consistent sleep schedule, which is also helpful.