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I remember just a few months ago bars and clubs being super packed and now there's hardly anybody at them. What's going on?

Edit: I'm in the Los Angeles area

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[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean here in Canada why would I go to a bar and spend like $12 on a single pint of beer when I can go to the store and pay the same amount and get like 6 pints?

Back in my 20's when I could go to the bar and pay $1.50 for a pint of PBR, sure it made sense. it was cheaper and i was with friends. I could get drunk on the cheap and have a good time.

now? there's no point. Cheap Dive bars (the ones I used to frequent) are going the way of the buffalo and in my city there's literally like only one left out of the dozens I used to go to all the time. I'm not paying over $10 for a single beer. Plus the patrons that still do go to bars are crap. they all would rather be on their phones then have a conversation at the bar.

so to sum up A. it's more expensive and B. younger generations killed the vibe.

[–] octobob@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Down here in Pittsburgh I can still pay $2-4 for a beer, and smoke inside.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

and smoke inside

Another reason bar and club scenes have died.

[–] octobob@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can't tell if you're for or against it.

I don't even smoke but I don't mind it. Lets me know where the cheap dives are and the vibe is better.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 130 points 2 days ago (8 children)

...Might help to mention what hemisphere you're in, or continent you're on? Or country? Or city?

The reason for your local change in nightlife could be anything from a wide, wide range of reasons, almost all of which depend heavily on where you are.

Let's not be like the uncouth Defaultist Americans that assume everybody in the world lives where they do. Let's be better, and let's provide a location when it's key info.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you just looked at the replies you would think OP said they were on an expired visa in Los Angeles.

I get that the ICE situation is scary, but for most of the world, this isn't a concern, the world economy however is always shifting and America is definitely on a downturn, as wages stagnate and prices skyrocket even before the full weight of the tariff nonsense hits. I don't know about other countries, but the US is going to be just like every other developing nation with a vast swath of citizens living in shanties while a few dozen people hold ALL the money.

In many places, people are still going out and partying, but also in much of the world, the idea of "clubbing" isn't nearly as popular and people tend to gather in streets and neighborhoods to celebrate and get drunk.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Obviously from the US because they think every human is from the US.

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Bloody US Defaultism 😒

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Americans legit think the internet ends at their borders. Even relatively modern places like Bluesky are so infuriating for not understanding how internet works.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Many, many years ago, Pizza Hut announced ordering pizza online if one of their restaurants is within a certain range. We checked, we were in range, and ordered our pizzas.

Guess what? No pizza. We sent a mail, and we got a totally confused answer. Yes, that offer was for US based orders only (no mentioning of this on the web site, we had checked!). How the heck could we have internet outside the US? Our answer, that the web was actually developed in Europe confused him even more.

We got the offer that they would send us the order free of charge once they expanded the service to our place. So far, no pizza, even though they offer this service for a few years now...

[–] DoGeeseSeeGod@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah they be from somewhere outside the united states like Hawaii

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Sooooo fucking on point. If you arent a sports fan in my area you would be so curious of the same question depending on time of year or success of season. Super anecdotal but just 1 example of tons and tons of variables that effect the bar/restaurant/hospitality industry

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[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 172 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I mean, I could go to a bar and get a $10 drink.

Or, I could have a whole-ass $11 bottle of wine, at home, in the quiet, with my dogs and a damn good book.

[–] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In addition to Summer Student Season, I hear there's a lot of ICE pouring through LA this year.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You gotta watch out for that dangerous black ice, it’s transparent and sneaky

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[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 78 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Trump economy. Enough said

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's bigger than one administration. Capitalism separates the majority of people from their wealth, which destroys their ability to go out to the club. All of that money you hear about that billionaires and even millionaires make is just the club money that you and I use to have. Now, instead of going to club, we sit in the dark and watch the ultrawealthy fly really high and call it space travel.

Everything that they have was taken from you and I.

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I've been reading this for the past 20 years online, and yet not a single fucking movement has done anything within my life to change this. And im sick of reading this, becuase so far no one wants to do anything about it.

You're preaching to the choir here.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I know. I'm also sad.

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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump put a 100% tariff on fun.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

More a tariff on life itself.

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[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux3@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's a financial thing. There's a K shaped economy, with no middle class, and the lower class dealt with inflation for a while with credit card debt... and... those credit cards are filled up.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Middle class is still working class.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stop doing this... its people vs the ultra wealthy... unless your less than 100 people your all the fucking same... they want people to feel divided, we are not... its rich assholes who are so morrally corupt and evil vs the rest of us...

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[–] scytale@piefed.zip 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No money and too expensive. Your option for water is sold in a can that costs $5. Alcoholic drinks are almost double the price now. And at least for my city, the bar districts are now just full of assholes who post-pandemic seemed to forget how to act in public especially when alcohol is involved.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Iirc, in the US (assumed due to "$"), any establishment that serves food or drink is required to provide free tap water.

Also, apply inflation to the fact that bars, and especially clubs, have always been expensive.

Also, "clubs are full of assholes" has been a meme since at least the 80s.

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[–] zewm@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (12 children)

People just spent a few hundred dollars taking their families to watch the 2 biggest movies of the summer and now in 2 weeks the kids return to school and need supplies. Money is tight right now and priorities.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I walk past a couple bars a lot and they seem to have the same amount of people. All the outside tables had folks last night.

I'm not going to bars because I'm unemployed. Like I say, if capital wants me to spend money they can give me some, first.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago

Do you live in a college town?

[–] winni@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

of course they are all caught in the traffic jam at the Gotthard tunnel

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 21 points 2 days ago

bars and clubs run on disposable income.

I was at a packed one last night for my friends that were DJing. I didn’t drink there though to save money

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 days ago

I think the effects of tariffs and unemployment and everything are starting to be felt.

I've seen a small decline in busy days at local bars or restaurants. I also live near areas that depend on summer tourism, and that is way down.

Thing is, as that goes down, so do the revenues/employees. As that happens, places close or cut employees.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I just read some article about how Germany has supposedly been experiencing a decline in the club scene for some years, and how there's a word for it.

kagi

Not the article I was thinking of, but the word is clubsterben.

https://www.dw.com/en/is-berlin-in-a-club-death-spiral/a-70341859

Is Berlin in a 'club death' spiral?

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 23 points 2 days ago

I'm a Kagi user and you still had me thinking that the German word was "kagi" for a moment there

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No one wants some 20 year old jackass taping them for TikTok clout.

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[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In addition to the economy thing that everyone else has already pointed out (and is totally valid)

I think it's worth pointing out that in the northern hemisphere it's summer right now, so if that's where you're located there's a lot of people going on vacations and having parties right now.

My social circles aren't exactly rolling in it, but at any given time over the summer, there's still at least a couple people I know are the beach, camping, having a BBQ or bonfire, or hanging out at a pool somewhere on their downtime when they might have been at a bar or something otherwise.

If you live in a touristy area, yeah, that's the economy, bars should be booming there.

I remember a couple years ago on a whim a couple of friends and I decided to go to a bar that's usually packed with a line well out the door of people waiting to get it. But it just happened to be a holiday weekend so lots of people had other plans, and we got in no problem.

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