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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 20 hours ago

In more low-key news, the New Yorker's given public praise to Blood in the Machine, pulling a year-old review back into the public spotlight.

Its hardly anything new (the Luddites' cultural re-assessment has been going on since 2023), but its hardly a good sign for the tech industry at large (or AI more specifically) that a major newspaper's decided to give some positive coverage to 'em.

With that out the way, here's a sidenote:

When history looks back on the Luddites' cultural re-assessment, I expect the rise of generative AI will be pointed to as a major factor.

Beyond being a blatant repeat of what the Luddites fought against (automation being used to fuck over workers and artisans), its role in enabling bosses to kill jobs and abuse labour in practically every field imaginable (including fields that were thought safe from automation) has provided highly fertile ground for developing class solidarity.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 18 hours ago

More publicity for or longtime friends: Sunday at the garden party for Curtis Yarvin and the new, new right, apparently the parties DJ was, as is tradition, a weird nerd: https://bsky.app/profile/alt-text.bsky.social/post/3lvxlb4migv2w (I linked to the alt text which was collected from the image, scroll up for the image itself).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Sorry to talk about this couple again, but people are discovering the eugenicists are also big time racists

[–] Greengordon@spore.social 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

@Soyweiser @BlueMonday1984

Wait, are those AMERICANS asking:

"Is the Arab brain 🧠 incompatible with democracy?"

The Americans who overthrew an Iranian democracy to install a dictator and are currently overthrowing their own elected government so they can be ruled by dictator? Those Americans?

🤣🙃

#uspol #iran

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Most inhabitants of Iran would dislike being called Arabs... but I guess the lazy racists are just using it as a shorthand for "brown people who are Muslim"

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 1 points 12 minutes ago

It's kind of a missed opportunity too, what with how heavily the OG Persians feature in the early chapters of the racist "clash of civilizations" narrative.

[–] SteveClough@metalhead.club 4 points 8 hours ago

@Soyweiser @BlueMonday1984 I think the real question is - are white men incompatible with democracy.

Because it seems like it at the moment.

[–] rzeta0@todon.eu 4 points 9 hours ago

@Soyweiser @BlueMonday1984

Whenever I see this accusation I'm reminded of the opposite accusation:

" Are white western people biologically predisposed to colonising the globe, imposing dictators on non-white people (incl Arabs), and normalising genocide and violence on non-white people ... all whilst maintaining a beautiful polite decorum around the superiority of human rights and democracy?"

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/father-hand-belgian-congo-1904/

#history

Father stares at the hand and foot of his five-year-old, severed as a punishment for failing to make the daily rubber quota, Belgian Congo, 1904.

[–] jonathankoren@sfba.social 3 points 9 hours ago

@Soyweiser @BlueMonday1984 I was wondering where this was hosted, and it’s just fucking YouTube.

Once again, AUP’s are just brand safety, and brand safety is just whatever make the most money.

Fight Club recall math scene, but instead of Jack (ie the narrator) talking about automobile safety recalls, it’s a social media company and hate speech

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Btw, the 'teen pregnancy' thing, is prob a bit ahistorical. If we use teen marriages as a standing for teen pregnancies, these were historically very low. (contrary to what people believe about the past, mostly because strategic marriages by rich people/nobles were not, but those people were not normal people) See: https://bsky.app/profile/nogoodwyfe.bsky.social/post/3lv2ehbn7pc2x

But reactionaries gotta go back to some imagined ideal past. No matter what actually learned people say. (and that is also why the far right is anti-intellectual).

[–] mountainriver@awful.systems 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Joining the war on teen pregnancies on the side of teen pregnancies to bring back the ideal past of - check notes - the 1990ies in the US.

(At least a cursory look points toward teen pregnancies in the US peeking some time in the 1990ies.)

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 12 hours ago

I assume they don't know teen pregnancies peaked in the 90s.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is just haplessly comical. The AI-generated sinister hijab lady, the attempts at algorithm-compliant YouTube face, the fact that they're doing this instead of raising their kids (which may be beneficial for the kids in the long run...) Who do they imagine they're convincing?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd assume they need X pieces of ~~flair~~ propaganda to get their theilbucks.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

I think they get to cash in their Racism Points for Thielbucks at the end of the month

Crypto bros continue to be morally bankrupt. There is an a coin / NFT called "GreenDildoCoin" and they've thrown dildos onto court at multiple WNBA basketball games (ESPN, video). It warms my heart that one of them was arrested. More of that please.

Polymarket even had a "prediction" on it. Because surely the outcome there couldn't be influenced by someone who also placed a large bet. Oh and Donald Trump Jr. posted a meme about it

None of this is particularly surprising if you've followed NFTs at all: the clout chasing goes to the extreme. In the limit memecoins can act as donations to terrible people from donors who want them to be terrible. Still I hate how much publicity this has gotten, and how this has manifested as gross disrespect towards women atheletes / women's sports by the sorts of losers who make "jokes" about no one watching WNBA games.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

OpenAI is food. You can tell because it's washed, rinsed, and cooked.

[–] macroplastic@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

Call me AGI because I am stealing this without attribution

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

this gave me a good chuckle after a few Some Fuckin Days, ty

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

who's the bigger fish that's gonna eat them?

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

@dgerard@awful.systems probably. you can tell because of the food poisoning. (Hope you're feeling better!)

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 13 points 1 day ago

Can we call this the peak of the LLM hype cycle now?

[–] FredFig@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago

Half of these are people using GPT to write a rant about GPT and the other half are saying "skill issue", it's an entirely different world.

Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony.

[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

I’m excited that Silicon Valley tech has finally managed to invent thinking. Makes this book obsolete at long last.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

Found a good sneer recently: The LLM In The Room, about LLMs' deeply-lacking usefulness for programming

[–] BigMuffN69@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only taste tester I trust dropped his verdict

[–] BigMuffN69@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

can't wait to see what fresh horrors this shit unleases

[–] mii@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck. The higher ups at my workplace are currently utterly Claude-brained to the point it makes you think they’re getting their salaries from Anthropic. I am like 80% sure this shit will be on my table when I’m back from vacation in two weeks.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

sorry for the jumpscare while you’re on holiday :)

[–] Seminar2250@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

ugh cybersecurity is already a fucking nightmare i should have braced myself

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

wouldn't you just love some snakeoil sauce on your snakeoil sandwich? imagine how good it'll go with that snakeoil cocktail we've given you, on the house!

(which, ofc, is a limited-size cocktail. only 30ml! enough to get a feel for our snakeoil! but also it's only 10ml/day. license levels. you understand, I'm sure.)

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Considering the quality of your average LLM, and the quality of the promptfondlers who use them, I expect this will result in a lot of serious security vulnerabilities and broken projects.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

Considering how bad these things are at math, see below, and how important math is for cryptography, see any textbook on it, this will be !!fun!!.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At my big tech job after a number of reorgs / layoffs it's now getting pretty clear that the only thing they want from me is to support the AI people and basically nothing else.

I typed out a big rant about this, but it probably contained a little too much personal info on the public web in one place so I deleted it. Not sure what to do though grumble grumble. I ended up in a job I never would have chosen myself and feel stuck and surrounded by chat-bros uggh.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You could try getting laid off, scrambling for a year trying to get back into a tech position, start delivering Amazon packages to make ends meet, and despair at the prospect of reskilling in this economy. I... would not recommend it.

It looks like there are a weirdly large number of medical technician jobs opening up? I wonder if they're ahead of the curve on the AI hype cycle.

  1. Replace humans with AI
  2. Learn that AI can't do the job well
  3. Frantically try to replace 2-5 years of lost training time
[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Amazon should treat drivers better. I hate how much "hustle" is required for that sort of job and how poorly they respect their workers.

I think my job needs me too much to lay me off, which I have mixed feelings about despite the slim-pickings for jobs.

I'm also trying to position myself to potentially have to flee the USA* due to transgender persecution**. There's still a lot of unknowns there. I'll probably stay at my job for awhile while I work on setting some stuff up for the future.

That said part of me is tempted to reskill into a career that'd work well internationally (nursing?) -- I'm getting a little up in years for that but it'd probably be a lot more fulfilling than what I'm doing now.

* My previous attempt did not work out. I rushed things too much and ended up too stressed out and unbelievably homesick.

** This has been getting incredibly stressful lately.

[–] mountainriver@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

Most medical careers work well internationally, in principle. Something to keep in mind is that language proficiency may be a stated or unstated prerequisite for employment, in particular if you have contact with patients. If you work with the machines (lab technician, etc) the language may be of less importance. Or at least, so I have heard. Relevance depends on your country of choice and your pre-existing language skills, of course.

To bad attempt number one didn't work well. Better luck with attempt number two.

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