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Ring footage shows an agent pulling his gun on her, after which he shoves her down multiple times, pushes her back into house & slams the door.

All because she was asking for proof of a warrant. They refused to even give their names & badge numbers.

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[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago
  1. Treat every firearm as if it is loaded
  2. Never point a firearm at anything you are not willing to destroy
  3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot
  4. Be sure of your target and what is behind it

I would say they are not following #2 but I am also pretty sure they are willing to destroy what they're pointing their weapons at in this situation. cunts

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Masked men

Refuse to give names

Refuse to give badge numbers

Refuse to identify themselves

Have no arrest warrant

Threatening bystander with lethal force

Show no shred of professionalism

Taking your loved one with no explanation other than 'shut the fuck up'

How is this not a kidnapping and why don't people defend themselves.

If masked men who refuse to identify as law enforcement with names, badges, or at least faces, are pushing my wife into an unmarked car ..... Ya someone is getting shot. Even if it's me, no one is taking my wife like that.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How much longer before one of these becomes an outright gun battle? Or some dude screaming “show me a warrant!!” while holding an AR15. I want someone to make these ICE fuckers scared to do this.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Will it even be reported?

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

卐 ᛋᛋ Nazi states of America ᛋᛋ 卍

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago

If not GeStaPo, why GeStaPo shape?

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This country is falling apart all so a bunch of racist conservatives can feel like they got revenge for Hollywood teasing them. The pain most conservatives will feel from the Republican policies will be brutal, but at least they get to inflict pain on their perceived enemies. What a silly fucking country.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There is no greater flake than a butt-hurt, racist conservative. That's why political correctness exists: to protect their feelings.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

We have reached a point in reality where I believe Tolkien's "Evil will defeat itself" when even Trump supporters are swept up by the consequences of their voting choices.

[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I also think it’s pent up rage because a black man was president. These racists will literally never let that go or accept it.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I've heard it so many times from racists I am related to and work with. ''We had a black president NOTHING IS RACIST ANYMORE! I can say whatever I want now'' they REALLY can't figure out what 'racism' means on any dictionary level.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 84 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He refused to identify himself and then assaulted the resident. Why is the news calling him an "agent?" These guys don't have badges, don't wear uniforms, drive in unmarked vans and wear masks. They don't know WTF they are.

Looks to me like a group of kidnappers.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 15 points 2 days ago

Good point. Could literally be vigilante militias. It at least merits an "alleged" or "purported" before "agent."

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am failing to find either a list of ICE abduction / detention victims or a list of ICE officer-involved homicide.

In 2015 police officer-involved homicide (that's a euphemism for when a law-enforcement officer kills someone) averaged four victims a day, and those are the ones uncovered by activist groups who tracked incidents through news and obituaries.

So I cannot imagine a quota of 3000 abductions a day is going to proceed cleanly. Technically, they're succeeding at about 1100 abductions a day on average. We've seen their violence discipline and deescalation skills are wanting.

The only news I can find about ICE killing someone is from the Biden era, and only a few are reported.

So if anyone knows how often ICE pulls the trigger and kills (or seriously hospitalizes) members of the public, and can find me sources, please let me know. We should be tracking them, and we should be saying their names.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't have that data for you, but don't forget that people also die in ICE detention, often due to withheld medical care.

EDIT: And apparently due to other reasons too...

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 221 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I’m not understanding how somebody in a mask who isn’t presenting a badge can brandish a gun and shove somebody on their property without themselves being shot.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.org 150 points 3 days ago (30 children)

yeah. still waiting on the 2A crowd to enforce their anti tyranny claims.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 82 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So felony kidnapping and aggravated menace. If they refuse to identify I dont see why we have to assume they are officers.

[–] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

I see loads of people saying this. Doing however...

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Just a matter of time before these thugs start getting gunned down while trespassing

[–] modus@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

It needs to happen sooner than later.

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[–] oyo@lemmy.zip 76 points 2 days ago (14 children)

If we allowed 50 million immigrants to enter the US the number of criminals per capita would be reduced.

If we deported Donald Trump the number of criminals per capita would also be reduced.

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[–] MrSmith@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Thank god the US is fucking loaded with guns, so people can defend themselves.

/s

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

More guns than people, but in the hands of a few. And anyone at risk of being deported is even less likely to risk it.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And yet we dont. This has always been the gun fetishists fantasy situation, but now that its here, they dont use their guns. Seems like they wasted their money.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

The gun fetish people are the only ones signing up to be ICE.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 97 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I want this clear. I.C.E has no jurisdiction when it comes to citizens. One shows up at your house tell em to fuck off and call a lawyer.

DO NOT COMPLY

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (6 children)

When they force their way into your home, shoot them dead.

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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 120 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Show up at their house and kidnap them and their families.

No warrant, no ID, no law required.

(Yeah, Pam, I said it. Fuck you and your goofy, Nazi, child stealing, kiddie fucking pals at ICE and the entire regime. Justice will find you one day.)

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Sick country and it is becoming worse.

[–] Cattail@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

That seems pretty exciting utopia

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 2 days ago (5 children)

SC has stand your ground. Wouldn't brandishing a weapon basically green light you for using proportional force to stop an illegal act?

Even better, id be interested to see what happens in a state with castle doctrine.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you haven't figured it out yet, all of the big talk, 2A fans are the biggest pussies out there.

If any of them were legit, we'd have dead ICE agents by now.

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The 2A crowd are the ICE agents

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[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 87 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is not a democratically elected regime. It’s a hostile takeover. The longer people don’t realise that the more time they have to prepare for their holocaust.

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