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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Integrity is most common in other countries, but not in the united states.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Pay more attention to home friend, Europe is sliding into corruption hand in hand with us. But that would get in the way of nationalism wouldn't it?

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[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 116 points 2 days ago (25 children)

What's even more unfair is area based voting, where your individual vote doesn't count to affect the government, you instead vote for a local representative which in turn effects the government. Your vote for president or prime minister should be direct, not a postcode lottery even without gerrymandering.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 41 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Both sides have had opportunities to make it illegal and neither have done it. I wonder why.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because you never were a democracy

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (18 children)

In my opinion there shouldn't be districts at all. Too much potential for fuckery.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Proportional representation is the way. X% of the vote means X% of seats, no shenanigans

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[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is kinda if topic, but why does the US have term limits for the presidency, but not all the other major positions?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

They focussed more on term length

  • House: two years for frequent turnover, voice of the people
  • Senate: 6 years for stability, maturity
  • judges: lifetime, for independence from who appointed them and from politics of the day

While these don’t seem to be working right, anyone proposing changes needs to understand what they were trying to do and not make it worse trying to fix another aspect

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the original Constitution, there are no limits for any of them. George Washington made it a tradition not to seek a third term, but it wasn't actually enshrined into law until ~150 years later.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It was invented because FDR was so popular that without that rule, his bones would probably still be president to this day.

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, a common pattern in pseudo democracies like Hungary...

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[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In the USA, politicians chose the voters!

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[–] Legisign@europe.pub 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The figures only make sense in “first past the post” (or “winner takes it all”) systems.

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[–] mr_account@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Obligatory mention of CGP Grey and his fantastic animal kingdom voting series: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mky11UJb9AY

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

And Alpha Phoenix demonstrating how to produce rigged boundaries that look natural and not suspicious:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq-Y7crQo44

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The more I hear about this Jerry Mander fella, the less I care for him.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You jest, but it was named after a person:

The term "gerrymander" originated in 1812 from the redrawing of Massachusetts state senate election districts under Governor Elbridge Gerry. The newly shaped districts, particularly one in Essex County, were said to resemble a mythological salamander. Federalist party members, critical of the practice, coined the term "Gerry-mander" (later shortened to gerrymander) by combining Gerry's name with "salamander"

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