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[–] stickly@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Trick question, we all lose

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

I mean... Look around? Maybe billionaire is a new thing, but it is just modern royalty. We still have kings, they just got better PR.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Seems like the billionaires are winning 🤷🏼‍♀️ ?!

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody is winning, except that demon capital. The billionaires are just losing less.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Stop being so rational!!

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

The billionaires, by convincing people the rich have a monopoly on violence.

But if anything sparks collective violence, the rich are overthrown within a month.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Assuming the 8b were all of the same mind, they would win. But we all know there are quite a few that the billionaires could buy to fight for them

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

so basically the billionares

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I belive the billionaires is currently winning

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But only because the other 8 billion let them

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago
[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Tje billionaires are winning now and the reasons are obvious.

The 8 billion are unable to think clearly, identify problems and organize. The billionaires are focused on their goals and super influential. They're able to buy loyality of the key less fortunate people and enforce loyality of others. They can also buy media to influence thinking of the masses.

If it was just about numbers, the billionaires would lose. But it's not.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Nature seems to be helping out recently as well.

[–] udon@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

So 8 billion + nature team up?

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago

The game is rigged.

[–] Emil_Zatopek1982@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just stop believing that those 3000 are billionaires. If 8 billion people say "No, you are not rich" those fuckers become poor. Money is a religion.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Except that doesn't stop the exchange of goods and services.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

I'd want to say "8 billion people", but right now 3000 billionaires lead on.

After all, they maintain their position by masterfully playing people off each other and setting things up to be on top. They have all the resources to extend their influence.

If 8 billion people could turn billionaires voices off for anything larger than a day, then yeah, 8 billion all the way, and 3000 will run out FAST.

But the latter know this, and will never let this happen. We should.

[–] xzot746@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Over 1 million Russians killed and how many tens of thousands in Gaza. 3000 would be quite easy compared to the innocent.

Yes markets would be in shit but so what, take their wealth and distribute it. The entire financial system is made out of thin air now, everyone will be all worried to justify why not to do it but we need to do it for our civilization to grow beyond having the Poor's do all the work for the greedy pigs.

The entire system needs to change and they won't go easy, it will be tough and bloody.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

The hard part isnt the toppeling of the system, it is creating a stable new one, economicly and politicly. Think about the millions of indoctrinated people in all corners of the world that are fuled by hate towards a none existing enemy. Getting those in, will be hard. Especially if they are deep into conspiricy

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Depends on the situation.

If we were all put into an arena with zero weaponry, the 8 billion. Under no circumstances would the 3000 win because the 8 billion would most likely end up murdering them, even if by accident.

Under the current world conditions, not looking good.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 207 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The billionaires are already winning, with no signs of that changing.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 106 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That’s because—for many reasons—there are way too many non-billionaires on team billionaire.

[–] SkaraBrae@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I worked with a guy that proudly proclaimed that he voted for the right because they looked after the rich.

He was not rich, but he purchased lottery tickets weekly and stated he'd rather get screwed while poor than pay more tax if he, some day, became rich.

And that was the day I realised that we're fucked.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

8 billion temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

[–] DeathToUS@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Don't put us on the same list with the rest of the world and 8 billion pretty much win.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Billionaires, because we are too dumb to not fall for their tricks

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[–] vane@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

3000 billionaires because you can't convince everybody to ditch school. You can't change people. Pharaoh, Hammurabi. Those are thousands of years of genetic obedience.

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[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately that is not how the figures really are. Way too many of those 8 billions will willingly simp and fight the rest of us in the name of those billionaires.

It's not the billionaires but the antisocial, amoral whores who will sell their souls for money and do their bidding that are the problem (police, army, etc.), and those who would quietly acquiesce. And of those there are way too many in some societies for change to be easy/possible.

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip 51 points 2 days ago (31 children)

If we decide money no longer matters it'd be petty easy to eliminate them all. If we continue to let money run our lives then it'll continue to be pretty easy for the people with money to keep all their power.

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[–] ileftreddit@piefed.social 34 points 2 days ago (11 children)

It’s funny cause no one seems to realize that the billionaires are human beings. They have a house, they shit, they piss, they bleed, etc. And yet, everyone is somehow convinced that becoming a billionaire makes you somehow invulnerable.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

An individual with a net worth of “just” $1b can afford to spend upwards of $50m per year on privacy and security, all while continuing to live a lavish lifestyle of excess and see their net worth continue to grow.

That’s more than the annual US household income being spent on a daily basis.

Now consider that the top 10 billionaires have more than 140x that amount.

Yes, they are made of flesh & blood, and are susceptible to all of the same maladies as you or I — but especially post Luigi, they are shoring up their defences to the point that even a motivated individual would have just as much chance of becoming a billionaire as they are to getting to one.

I would hope to be proven wrong, and to see a true working class uprising against them in my lifetime - but alas, I think they are too effective at keeping us arguing against ourselves to ever pose a serious risk to their hegemony.

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