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Ten years after the Supreme Court extended marriage rights to same-sex couples nationwide, the justices this fall will consider for the first time whether to take up a case that explicitly asks them to overturn that decision.

Kim Davis, the former Kentucky county clerk who was jailed for six days in 2015 after refusing to issue marriage licenses to a gay couple on religious grounds, is appealing a $100,000 jury verdict for emotional damages plus $260,000 for attorneys fees.

In a petition for writ of certiorari filed last month, Davis argues First Amendment protection for free exercise of religion immunizes her from personal liability for the denial of marriage licenses.

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[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 277 points 5 days ago (8 children)

You're not free to enforce your religion on others as a public servant.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 187 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes you are. Crime is legal now as long as you’re a conservative

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[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 98 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Supreme Court: We're public servants and we're free to enforce our religion on others.

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You work for the government, you are acting as the government, paid for by taxes from your constituents.

You do not get to decide which laws to follow. Fuck off Kim.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

She has no reason to speak of morals when you look at how poorly she practices what she screeches.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 150 points 5 days ago (29 children)

I genuinely do not understand how this was ever a case. You are an employee at an office that provides a service. You are a representative of that organization. And, as a civil service employee, I would expect you are obligated by the laws of that county or state to facilitate the services offered.

Davis, as the Rowan County Clerk in 2015, was the sole authority tasked with issuing marriage licenses on behalf of the government under state law.

ON BEHALF OF

Regardless if you're in this position or you're the president, you are obligated by the state or federal constitution to operate as a representative of that jurisdiction's laws.

If she took on this job while knowing it would conflict with her religious views, or the laws changed in a matter that conflicted with her views, she should have notified the county and she should have been denied or removed from that position. Although, I'm sure that raises a different case in denying someone employment based on their religion.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 117 points 5 days ago (14 children)

I once asked my mother if it would be ok for a Muslim or Jewish deli employee to refuse to sell her pork. She said they shouldn't be in that job if it conflicted with their religious beliefs. I tried to tie that to this and she sort of shut down rather than argue against it or accept it.

We don't have a relationship anymore. She voted for the shithead every time.

[–] 0li0li@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The deli owner can actually deny service to however they want since it's a private business. They don't have to serve anyone, but it does look fucking bad if/when they discrininate, but technically they can.

Here, that government employee HAS the obligation to follow the law and act regardless of her own beliefs. Maybe she should instead run a deli...

Your example is very good, in fact, it prouves your mother wrong in 2 different ways.

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 86 points 5 days ago (4 children)

If they're going to open the door to any government employee being able to refuse to do their job as directed on religious grounds, this country is going to grind to a halt.

Just kidding, we all know that with the current court and administration, this will only allow people with the "right" religion to refuse.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 5 days ago

An in-group that the law protects but does not bind, and an out-group that the law binds but does not protect. Conservatism in a nutshell.

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[–] etherphon@midwest.social 61 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What a horrible, terrible, evil piece of shit of a person. A lot of people serve other people they don't like every day, it's called having a fucking job, no need to make a federal fucking case out of it you stupid selfish childish pious asshole.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yooooo.... This bitch is still doing the same, heinous shit? A decade later? Why don't these pieces of shit just get fucking lives or hobbies or something? They're like goddamned ghouls, hanging around and smelling of shit. Like. Fuck. GO AWAY.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Methinks she’s being funded by those organizations.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 110 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Interracial marriage is on the table too with these fascists.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 54 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Not just interracial marriage, they don’t want people to be able to become citizens through marriage.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 35 points 5 days ago
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[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 5 days ago

Can this bitch just fucking die already? I'm tired of seeing her face in the news every couple years

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 77 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Could we just get government out of the marriage game? It seems to be the source of all the problems. They simply shouldn't care.

Even if we don't this is such a simple concept: Marriage is a contract. The requirements for a contract is consenting adults. How can they make gender determine who can sign a contract? That would be unreasonable.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think you're second point is more important. The religious part of marriage is actually meaningless in the eyes of the law even today, you still need to apply for a marriage certificate with the government.

I think we just need to extend that to just be a cohabitation/shared asset contract for any two+ people. It makes a lot of legal sense to have a defined "family unit" for medical/legal/financial reasons, but it shouldn't overlap with religious concepts.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 days ago

Religion is a monstrous evil.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 21 points 5 days ago (10 children)

But Jesus said gays bad!

He didn't say anything about love!

Oh, wait...

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[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 4 days ago

"Davis said she's been "called Hitler, I’ve been called [a] hypocrite, I’ve been called a homophobe."

"I’ve been called things and names that I didn’t even say when I was in the world. Those names don’t hurt me," Davis said. "What probably hurt me the worst is when someone tells me that my God does not love me or that my God is not happy with me, that I am a hypocrite of a Christian.""

Lmao, so you don't mind being called Hitler, but being called a fake Christian - now that's insulting! Tells you everything you need to know

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 5 days ago

What a hateful piece of shit.

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 51 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Shocked, I tell you! Shocked!

Also, what's going on with the Epstein Files? Ya know, while we're on the subject of "Dead Cat Theory"

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 72 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Of course they are. And of course that stupid bitch Kim Davis is involved.

Also: how could Joe Biden and Kamala Harris do this to us?

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago (29 children)

Also: really glad protest voters sat this one out, I can't begin to imagine how much worse this would be under Kamala /s

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 64 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Who is the injured party here? She clearly refused to do her job.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago

You don't understand, she was forced to undergo social contact with... shudder GAYS!

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[–] CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Can we get someone who believes in Jakub elected as county clerk somewhere in the US South? Then they can deny marriage licenses to all the white people for being inhuman.

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (10 children)

So could she have refused to serve a black person or an Asian person based on her personal religious views that she doesn't like black or Asian people?

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago

Another 3 to 6 decision then. It's getting kind of repetitive.

[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Can we just take a minute to appreciate how much forehead she has? She could star in the next Coneheads movie!

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[–] Kwyjibo1@lemmy.myserv.one 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But her divorces and multiple marriages are fine.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Petition the court to allow us to stone her to death because the Bible says so.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

This would then apply to all religions, correct?

She is so messed up. Religious marriage is separate from state licensing of relationships. Religion can discriminate away, but the state serves all its people.

She can't argue she was acting on behalf of the state, and literally says it was based on her personal beliefs how can she then argue she has no personal liability?

I think that firing her would have been the better answer though, if she won't do the job then fire her and hire someone without a conflict.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

Fuck. Not this asshole again. She should have faded into obscurity and poverty by now.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And this Ladys and Gentlr-people is, why LGB without the T is simply shooting in your own foot. First they go for trans people, but republicans will not stop there. They want to see all of the LGBTQ community dead or at least completely stripped of their rights and hiding at home. Just because you fought with the Republicans to make the life for trans people hell that doesn't mean, that you aren't next.

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[–] KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is how it goes people, either everyone gets rights or no one gets rights.

They come for the Trans people first, how long until the come for you.

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[–] Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

And the next one is removing rights from women. And up next, slavery 2: Orange Boogaloo...

What the actual fuck America.

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