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[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 44 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Seriously?

What idiot thought it would take a trillion years for the US to rack up $37 in debt?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

lmao

Came in to make the same stupid joke. Love to see I've been beaten to it.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Me too kolanaki, me too. I was so excited too, ah well, I'll be faster next time.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago

Well, things like that happen when you throw money at billionaires instead of collecting taxes from them.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 11 points 11 hours ago

Fucking Democracts not paying the debt down.

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[–] Plurrbear@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I still waiting for the damn “trickle down economics“ that Reagan PROMISED!

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 8 points 8 hours ago

It was ruled in court to be illegal in 1919 in the Dodge vs Ford lawsuit.

At the time, Ford himself wanted to: "My ambition is to employ still more men, to spread the benefits of this industrial system to the greatest possible number, to help them build up their lives and their homes. To do this we are putting the greatest share of our profits back in the business."

But shareholders (both Dodge brothers of the Dodge car company) sued against this and in the end the judge declared that: "A business corporation is organized and carried on primarily for the profit of the stockholders. The powers of the directors are to be employed for that end. The discretion of directors is to be exercised in the choice of means to attain that end and does not extend to a change in the end itself, to the reduction of profits or to the nondistribution of profits among stockholders in order to devote them to other purposes."

Basically, if you attempted trickle down economics, you'd be "stealing" from the shareholders. Extra money is to be given to shareholders as dividends, not for boosting the pay of your employees if it doesn't involve adding more profits to the bottom line.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

If America paid attention to its own history Reagan would be remembered as the worst president

[–] mineralfellow@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

There is really a lot of competition for that spot.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Maybe third, Jackson was really fucking bad

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

An America that learns from Reagan would never have elected Trump

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Yes, no argument here. I know Reagan holds a lot of responsibility for the prep, but i think trump is still worse

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 21 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's what a conman as leader of your country will get you. Fired half the government workforce, still spent more money than the last guy and he's only been in office for 6 months. It only goes down from here folks, hope you enjoyed the ride. This is your last stop.

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

I'm planning to leave tbh

[–] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 48 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Who thought it would take a trillion years for the debt to reach $37?

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

Actually, we thought it would take 1,000,000,000,010 years but it only took 10.

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

the title from Newsweek is so poorly written

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The debt didn't reach $37 just a trillion years early?

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I initially parsed it as "the US reached 37 billion years before..." like it was a sci-fi apocalyptic piece set in the far future

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 22 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

So what happens when the US defaults? Just asking for those that are curious to see where this slowmotion trainwreck is heading

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

think 2008 crisis, but worst. because everything was getting cut. when obama came in the military was downsizing as well, until TRUMP came into power for the first time.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Austerity. Eventually.

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Debt doesn't matter, especially in the usa.

There will be no default. However, there will be massive inflation and loss of the dollar as the world's reserve currency.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

They aren't actually borrowing from anybody, the debt is to themselves. It basically just means the US Federal Government spends more than it collects every year since POTUS Clinton was in charge.

They do set an upper limit to the debt / annual deficit and if they fail to resolve it by raising the limit then the federal government goes into shutdown: no new laws passed, no federal employees get paid, etc. But they pretty much always raise the limit. The last time the limit was raised it was a bipartisan push to keep the government running, during which the DNC members who joined with the Republicans received a lot of criticism for doing what the Republicans wanted, but TBH I don't really think things would have been much better off if the government had shut down again.

Next time, though, it's become clear that the Senate will keep stripping rights and not allow a single bit of progress to be made no matter how far into fascism this nation falls, so definitely should shut down.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

This is a vast misrepresentation. National debt is literally bank loans the government has taken out and promissory notes like Treasury bonds. They owe investors, banks, and individuals money - only 1/5th of the national debt is held by intergovernment bodies (meaning money the government has loaned itself and 'owes themselves'). 80%+ of the debt is owed to non-internal groups. Even the self-owed debt must be repaid, or the government would be defaulting on a loan from one department to pay the other - robbing Peter to pay Paul.

https://www.marketplace.org/story/2023/05/26/who-does-the-u-s-owe-31-4-trillion

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[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Pretty sure it's actually Nixon's fault from 1971

[–] nelly_man@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

They mention Clinton because when he left office, the federal government was running at a surplus and was paying down the national debt. However, that changed after Bush came to office and passed tax cuts before starting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago

Republicans: let's increase spending like crazy while giving all the rich discounts, plummeting our income. In the meantime we just pretend that we're spending less than Democrats

What could possibly go wrong?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

I never mentioned fault I just said Clinton was the last POTUS to create surplus. I blame Reagan for cutting taxes.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 51 points 1 day ago

What happens when someone uses an entire country as collateral while stuffing their own pockets. Watch it happen, now!

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Trump will be the first president under which a sovereign default will occur

[–] lostlittletimeonthis@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

History repeats itself indeed, it's sounding more and more like the pre revolution France, a tone deaf dictator, cooking the books because the numbers weren't so good, the poor suffering more and more etc etc

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 10 points 17 hours ago

*guillotine sharpening intensifies

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 12 hours ago

repeating 2008 , but much worst than before.

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