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[–] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 2 points 15 minutes ago

Fuck windows, and copilot, and recall, and most especially OneDrive, and start menu ads, and unnecessary upgrades and ... And ... I gotta say I'm so much happier on Ubuntu, took me a little googling on some stuff and proton is still finicky sometimes, but man o man is it nice to have an OS which does what I tell it to.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 24 minutes ago

Windows still is way farther ahead

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't really help that the AAA scene has gone straight in the shitter, while the quality games are all coming out of the Indie scene.

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

What Valve is doing is making it easier for indie Devs to better support Linux. They don't have the funds for separate Linux builds. But with proton, it's a pleasure to make it work. So... It's great that quality games are coming out of Indie studios and they can be played on linux. Fuck the AAA

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If the survey hit for me 1 week from now I'd be on Linux, I'm literally setting my system up properly next Saturday

[–] MadBigote@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

You can dual boot Linux to try it out.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

My main gaming rig is my last system not running Linux right now, I've been migrating my stuff over on my other systems for a couple months now (I keep getting distracted lol)

But not that I've got alts for the software I normally use on my main rig it's finally time, 2 months ahead of schedule.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

That comes with its own risks because Windows has been known to destroy dual boot setups when doing updates. Not always, but it can happen and it's burnt people.

Dual booting also makes it harder when you decide to get rid of windows fully, because you might yourself accidentally screw your bootloader as part of removing windows.

The option I would personally recommend if you are unsure is to disconnect your windows hard drive, keep it safe, and install Linux on a separate drive. Then you can always drive swap back if you need and you know everything is safe.

You can even put the windows drive back in after installing Linux, and then just use your BIOS boot drive selector to switch where you are booting from. Each drive has it's own boot record in that case, so there's less risk of any accidents.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Disconnecting is good advice. What worked for me after windowa scrubbed the EFI boot was installing Linux and assigning its own EFI partition, most distros probe foreign OS so your separate Linux partition gets a chainloader entry to the windows EFI boot. You set BIOS to use Linux boot, Windows gets a handoff if you choose it in the Grub Menu and doesn't know about the other EFI partition. Kept my dual install save.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Are we going to make a big deal out of every 0.3% shift in steams stats towards Linux?

Wake me up when we're dealing in whole percentages.... That's when I'll be excited about it, until then this could just be a sampling bias. A rounding error.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Steam OS handhelds are pretty much the entirety of the growth.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Linux went from 2.59% to 2.89%, that's a 11.6% increase in the number of Linux users.

If it shifted .3% it would have went from 2.59% to 2.5977%.

The article is confusing 'percentage points' with 'percentage'

Another way of looking at it is that the Steam Linux user population went from ~3,418,000 users to ~3,814,000 users. So there are nearly 400,000 new Linux gamers.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

0.3% overall. There might be half a million new Linux gamers on steam, but there's still hundreds of millions of PC gamers using Windows.

You can arrange the numbers how you want, the fact is that this is still a pretty small shift in the overall PC gamer landscape. I promise you, that's how any larger developer sees it. Their pool of PC gamers shifted by a fraction of a percent. A good chunk of those that they "lost" as potential customers, probably wouldn't have bought their games in the first place.

The demographic overlap for large studios of people who are intentionally using Linux for gaming, and people that are interested in their game, doesn't overlap much, if at all, I bet. Until we get their key demographic switching over in large enough quantities to threaten their profits, the majority of the industry won't budge from their windows centric views.

Look. I don't hate Linux. Quite the opposite in fact. I'm rooting for these stats to move in and significant amount. I feel that's an inevitable shift that will happen and until we do, we'll keep getting these articles, describing a fraction of a percent move in the overall numbers as if it's a huge culture shift for how people are playing games.

If you haven't seen it, maybe you should watch field of dreams, becasuse the main tag line of the movie "if you build it, they will come" definitely applies here. The larger PC gaming community, there is a statistically significant number of indie devs and indie studios that support Linux as a platform, even if it's just the steam deck they're building for.... Those studios just are not the biggest players in terms of revenue/sales... But they're the ones building "it". This is slowly but surely fueling the fires that will eventually burn down Microsoft's dominance in the gaming space. It's been a war that's been waged for literal decades, since before steam was a thing.

There will come a day when we will hit critical mass and the large studios will be forced to either accept that their user base is shrinking because they don't support Linux. That day is not today. We will need to see much more movement than a few percent difference before that happens. This isn't even a few percent. This is a fraction of a percent of the total.

So forgive me if I'm not excited by any of this. It's movement in the right direction, but it's utterly meaningless to the companies that could actually shift the industry to Linux on a large scale.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

I'm not trying to convince you to cheer for this, I'm just correcting a common math mistake.

0.3% overall.

.3 percentage points. 11.6% increase

Those are two different things

[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 18 points 12 hours ago

I'm currently configuring my new linux dev/gaming machine. Thanks for giving me the push I needed, Microsoft!

[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck microsoft. Fuck the Idea that everything needs to make a profit. Essential stuff should be publicly owned.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (7 children)

I want to nationalize seashores. It's unfair rich people privatized entire coastline.

Same with natural resources. WTF are they owned by corpos? Anything mined and drilled should be owned by all citizens

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 33 points 16 hours ago

People don't have a choice. Microsoft made W11 incompatible with a lot of hardware and Microsoft said, "lol, buy new hardware"

Giving nary a single fuck about whats best for their users.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's good to see people making a switch to Linux. But the real tell will be in finding out how many of those people actually stick long term.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 8 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

Dual booting will likely be a part of it, and microsoft will do whatever they need to make sure the bootloader is broken constantly.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

And that's exactly why my Windows install is locked away in VM hell. Fucked with my bootloader twice and I said never again.

I even set up a custom boot option that autoloads the Windows VM in a lightweight Linux environment, so other than the brief Linux boot log, it feels exactly like a native install, 10/10 recommend

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