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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org to c/politicalhumor@lemmy.world

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Dr. Abraham Erskine, played by Stanley Tucci in Captain America.

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[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've heard this said about colonialism as well: "The first country the English colonized was their own"

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Normandy?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it's probably more about the rise of the absolute monarchy and conquest of Britain itself which coincided with the European discovery of the Americas but you could take it a lot of ways.

Now that I think about it I've never seen the original context

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Britain hasn't had an absolute monarchy since the Magna Carta, centuries before the discovery of the New World. Charles I tried to implement one and was beheaded for his trouble.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The English throughout history don't think the Magna Carta was as important as Americans think it is. It is ironically more important to the American founding myths than the English. It was legally defunct by the 1400's, in large part due to events like the War of the Roses.

Death of Charles I: 1649

Founding of Jamestown: 1607 (Guess the name of the English king that started really pushing for absolute monarchism in England during this period btw)

Columbus's voyage: 1492

[–] vane@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

USA ?

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

This is one racist, white nationalist community. Banning indigenous people for calling out Americans who now are playing the victim

[+] fylkenny@feddit.org -21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Thats wrong, they got voted in by the germans.

[–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 month ago

They originally had a minority of votes but were able to force through legislation that allowed them to do whatever they wanted

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can read this Wikipedia article about why the OP is right.

[–] NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago

Thanks for sharing it.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why though? Want to elaborate at all?

[–] fylkenny@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They got enough votes, to get Hitler nominated as chancellor. Of courses it wasn't an absolute majority but still enough. Doesn't sound like an invasion to me. Or did maga and trump invade the USA? All good people there, then a small margin less than half the country, came from somewhere and supported trump, yeah sure. Hitler then as chancellor used existing legislation like Notstandsverordnungen to solidify and extend his power. Still not an invasion. Narratives like that put the blame of the rise of fascism on external forces, when it's an internal process.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Narratives like that put the blame of the rise of fascism on external forces, when it’s an internal process.

Fuck off, you just want to argue semantics so you feel better. An invasion of power structures is an invasion, you're trying to make some essentialist argument that Americans have some inherent, essentialist component that makes them vote for fascists or something, which is far worse than arguing if the term "invasion" is appropriate. Don't bother replying.

[+] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world -31 points 1 month ago (5 children)

That’s like saying trump invaded the u.s. you guys voted for him or stood aside to let him win

[–] ProfessorPeregrine@reddthat.com 41 points 1 month ago

You didn't mention the third group though. More of us voted against him and are stuck in this nightmare.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yupp, because all nations are monoliths, nuance doesn't exist, and 347 million Americans all voted the exact same way with the exact same feelings.

Stop acting like fascism is this easy thing to avoid, and give it the intense analysis it deserves so we can actually fucking figure out how to prevent it. Seriously, if the only thing you can contribute to the conversation is "well they voted for it," please sit down so the adults can work on a real solution.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Republicans have been stacking the deck for themselves for decades via voter suppression, gerrymandering and other tactics. Meanwhile, our other party has been infiltrated by corporate stooges who support their donors more than people. It wasn't a military invasion, but it was a slow erosion of the agency of the people.

Trump is the end result of 30+ years of a Christian nationalist take over of the US.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Those corporate stooges all won their primaries. America is fucked because Americans spent decades thinking that they could bring about change by listening to the right music and watching the right movies, and that everything else would just take care of itself.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Social manipulation has been engaged on American soil for decades. Our political landscape has turned around radically in the last half-century, I know because I've watched it. It's a tactic for destroying democracy that's been done around the world over and over.

Of fucking COURSE people voted for him you dipshit, that's the idea, that's how nazis did it too, they gained popular sentiment through populism and shifting blame for problems onto marginalized groups, this is fascism 101, it preys on human weaknesses and mental backdoors.

You are vulnerable to it also. Everyone who thinks nazis or trump supporters are some kind of inhuman entity are themselves more vulnerable than anyone else. Educate yourself before spouting this nonsense.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

My jab at Americans is that they complained politics is boring, and now they regret it.