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Brazil's Supreme Court ruled on Monday that foreign legislation did not have jurisdiction in its country, after the United States used a law to sanction a judge on the court.

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[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 104 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Good. Everyone should state this.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 52 points 1 month ago

The basic concept of sovereignty makes this pretty clear. Its a sad day when we have to point out that the sky is, in fact, still blue

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 month ago

It's just for show. It also means BRICS is a thing. The US is finished. Now, can someone point me to cheap land in North Carolina?

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No no, Brazil, you’re failing to understand how hegemony works. You see, we aren’t colonizing you, you’re independent. No imperialism here. But if you do something we don’t like…well, let’s just say you should do what we like.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because of the implication.

[–] PanGodofPanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

are these sovereign nations in danger?

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But Russian law is apparently applicable in the United States...

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah. That's how being a puppet state works.

[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why did this even need a ruling?

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So no one tries to pull a smart one.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Or a dumb one. Those can be even more dangerous.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lol why would they? But then again, Americans are the only country who fly their drones over your country, and use your country as a battlefield and then go home. They’re the world police. They would shit themselves if another country used the us mainland as a battlefield and had foreign drones flying around.

They’re too used to thinking they own the planet

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Uh... The Russia? Isn't that country doing the same in a much bigger scale, even?

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Russia is doing it on a far smaller scale. The US does it so often it's boring.

See: how many military bases the US has around the world. See also: how Hawai'i became a state. But The Russia bad.

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

A far smaller scale? Show me where USA has ever done something like what the Russia has done in Groznyi, Aleppo, Mariupol and Bakhmut?

When was the last time USA spent a night sending several hundred drones aimed at civilian homes? And when was the last time the Russia did not do just that?

What about the Kakhovka dam? When was the last time USA caused such devastation anywhwere at all?

I mean, I've been in several demonstrations against many wars waged by the US, and I most likely will attend many more, and I stopped buying US-made products when the Iraq war began. But come on, what the Russia is doing is in a whole other league compared with USA.

And of course I know about Hawaii. Just blatantly overthrowing a country's leadership and taking over it in such modern times is apalling. But have you ever heard of Siberia? Did you know that it is nowadays a part of the Russian Federation? Ever read of that? And then, if you look at Mali, South Sudan, Belarus, Libya, Kazakhstan, and Syria, the amount of pain and horror caused for the locals because of Russian meddling in their countries has been huge. Yeah, regarding that, USA is doing very similar shit, but they do at least cause less destruction than the Russia does when doing the same.

And USA has Guantanamo, but the Russuahas twenty of those.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The issue with the US is they use other countries as bases for their drone war.

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago

Why is that a relevant difference?

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Alright I'm confused, how did sovereignty not already prevent this?

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 month ago

The Americans currently in charge needed it turned into a picture book with words less than 5 letters to understand.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

It's great showmanship. It's a lot of festive noise and music to point fun at the dying empire.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 27 points 1 month ago

And yet nothing will ever stop Americans from coming into other nations’ subs and citing amendments that we don’t have.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

JFC Canada needs this - badly.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then we'd still have a home grown defense industry with Avro Arrows in museums and not wrecking yards.

But hey, now is a uniquely unique time in history, never before have we seen such things.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

With a federal government so much in thrall to private corporations - we’re not gonna see anything truly Canadian materialize.

[–] guy@piefed.social 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How could that even go to the supreme court?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

According to the Constitution of Brazil, foreign court decisions "can only be enforced in Brazil upon approval or in compliance with international judicial cooperation mechanisms," the court said.

Seems there is a mechanism for it. Probably to work with the international court of justice or something?

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Treaties in general that Brazil is a signatary of. The ones that legislate human rights are ranked as high as the constitution.

[–] rammer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Too bad the US is not a signatory to great many of those treaties.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Aparently they thought US law applied in other countries, so you can see why they were confused

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Well, it's the correct court to judge it.

Or you meant "how come someone even though the opposite?"

I don't have an answer for that. There's that guy that got a powerful position in some other country that keeps ordering that people do those nonsensical stuff, and I can't really understand where he takes his ideas from.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

Doh, but it needed to be said, yes

Alright everyone time to move server domains 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

[–] MrSilkworm@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

I do not know what you have against fees. People need to pay rent. Even Americans.