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WASHINGTON (AP) — Empathy is usually regarded as a virtue, a key to human decency and kindness. And yet, with increasing momentum, voices on the Christian right are preaching that it has become a vice.

For them, empathy is a cudgel for the left: It can manipulate caring people into accepting all manner of sins according to a conservative Christian perspective, including abortion access, LGBTQ+ rights, illegal immigration and certain views on social and racial justice.

“Empathy becomes toxic when it encourages you to affirm sin, validate lies or support destructive policies,” said Allie Beth Stuckey, author of “Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion.”

Stuckey, host of the popular podcast “Relatable,” is one of two evangelicals who published books within the past year making Christian arguments against some forms of empathy.

The other is Joe Rigney, a professor and pastor who wrote “The Sin of Empathy: Compassion and its Counterfeits.” It was published by Canon Press, an affiliate of Rigney’s conservative denomination, which counts Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth among its members.

These anti-empathy arguments gained traction in the early months of President Donald Trump’s second term, with his flurry of executive orders that critics denounced as lacking empathy.

As foreign aid stopped and more deportations began, Trump’s then-adviser Elon Musk told podcaster Joe Rogan: “The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy.”

Even Vice President JD Vance, a Catholic convert, framed the idea in his own religious terms, invoking the concept of ordo amoris, or order of love. Within concentric circles of importance, he argued the immediate family comes first and the wider world last — an interpretation that then-Pope Francis rejected.

While their anti-empathy arguments have differences, Stuckey and Rigney have audiences that are firmly among Trump’s Christian base.

“Could someone use my arguments to justify callous indifference to human suffering? Of course,” Rigney said, countering that he still supports measured Christ-like compassion. “I think I’ve put enough qualifications.”

Historian Susan Lanzoni traced a century of empathy’s uses and definitions in her 2018 book “Empathy: A History.” Though it’s had its critics, she has never seen the aspirational term so derided as it is now.

It’s been particularly jarring to watch Christians take down empathy, said Lanzoni, a graduate of Harvard Divinity School.

“That’s the whole message of Jesus, right?”

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[–] Azal@pawb.social 34 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I had a really good preacher growing up. Probably a big part of why I don't hate all religion.

He spoke of compassion, of the teachings of the bible as he felt was to be a good person. Viewed being Christian as being like Christ as much as much as one was possible, but people fail to live up to it, that's our failings, but to believe is to still keep striving for that perfection.

2001 happened, and the hatred to Muslims came. Then one day, the preacher is talking about an extremist, one that is hated by the government, outspoken to the government, that people hated and reviled. A man from the middle east. "That is our lord and savior." You could have heard a pin drop in that room when everyone was figuring he was talking about a Muslim radical instead of Jesus. It was a call against the fear mongering, to love our neighbors even if we don't believe the same, to not assume the worst about people. He described how we usually get Jesus wrong in looks, that he'd be one of those we'd be persecuting post 9/11 America because of his looks, showing a magazine cover where a group of anthropologists reconstructed what Jesus likely looked like based on what they knew of the people of that region of that time, had the magazine on display in the hall where people gathered after worship.

It wasn't a year later that he was removed from being the preacher of that church. Probably a big part of why I'm not a believer anymore.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 13 points 2 days ago

I think he won the best preacher's pulpit, one no corrupt church leadership can take away: Your heart. It will beat to his words, for many more decades to come.

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[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

In the Bible they talk about how people will view the antichrist as virtuous. Jesus condemns the pharases who are the religious officials of the day, for hypocrisy. I understand when you regretfully have to disobey God's words and want to call yourself a Christian, dispite your shame. I do not understand gleefully treating the sorjourner as an animal then chanting his name like you mean it. I call them antichrist-ians.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 33 points 2 days ago (4 children)

These jokers had like 2000 years of warning of what the antichrist would be like and still fell for it. Unreal.

I'm not religious, so this is in jest, but it's still eerie.

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[–] 18107@aussie.zone 9 points 2 days ago

The common factor found in all Nazis was a lack of empathy. Without empathy, we are capable of unimaginable cruelty.

[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 days ago

Key ingredient if you want fascism via christian nationalism. Oh, those gas chambers? Jesus blessed them!

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

now this is actual heresy

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

These dipshits clearly do not understand the parable of the Good Samaritan or anything Jesus did/said.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The parable where the good samaritan was deported for being a criminal foreigner? Or the sermon given by a young criminal who got hung at the cross?

That's what they take away from the bible and seriously I can't understand how someone like that can still call themselves christians. Tbh, that's the definition of "taking the lord's name in vain".

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They remember his famous speech that ends 'do you feel lucky, punk? Well do ya!?' And all the stuff about how 'some percentage of people must necessarily starve so genocide is fine and good actually and its mot like the irish or indians are people anyway'

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago

In order to justify their own bigotry, they seem to be literally abandoning the central teachings of the key teacher in Christianity.

When Jesus was asked "what is the most important part of the law", the two part response was love . To love God wholly, and to love others as we love ourselves.

When later asked how Christians would be judged, Jesus said that we would be judged as if we had done to Jesus whatever we do to the least among us.

I don't see how it is possible to reconcile bigotry with either of these teachings. I guess they can twist themselves into rhetorical knots and try, but it seems way easier to just decide to love everyone and leave it to God to judge us for whatever our sins may be.

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Matthew 22:37-39 NIV. Jesus replied: “ 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. ' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.

Matthew 25:40-46 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

These aren't even out of context. But I admit these are copied straight from the woke red bits.

But perhaps Kropotkin wrote it better. Mutual Aid,1902: "...in all these scenes of animal life which passed before my eyes, I saw mutual aid and mutual support carried on to an extent which made me suspect in it a feature of the greatest importance for the maintenance of life, the preservation of each species, and its further evolution."

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[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 days ago (6 children)

1 John 3:17

“If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?”

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 32 points 2 days ago

Yes but that was pre-Maga.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"Empathy becomes toxic when it encourages you to affirm sin, validate lies or support destructive policies,” said Allie Beth Stuckey, author of “Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion.”

Leave it up to Christians to argue that empathy can ve a bad thing

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[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For fucks sake, can ya all stop calling these heathens Christians? Sorry but to be called a Christian you need to follow teacheings of Christ, I know, not obvious at all! -.-'

And no, no jew-like bending rules around till they fit what you want either (wierd line hanged around...NYC IIRC...to allow them to "work" when their religion forbids?). You have the ten tenets, follow them dammit. These dumb fucks break them DAILY.

And that's before we even go into teachings of, you know, being empathetic towards your brethern. You can even replace Jesus with Superman and...ah, sorry, forgot USA conservatists hate him too.

FFS USA.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can "No True Scotsman" as hard as you want but they're nailing this shit to your church door like that was the only part they learned.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Don't give a flying fuck my friend - I will continue to call bullshit. Stop calling them christians - they're heretics by definition, openly defying the teachings. Also, fallacy fallacy my friend, even if I used "No True Scotsman" - which doesn't even apply here because being a Christian does have requirements they don't follow so there's no redefining here - that doesn't mean I am wrong.

Call them heretics/heathens openly. I can bet my ass that would hurt ^^

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

In other news

  • women are at fault for being raped because they wear revealing clothes
  • the Good Samaritan was wrong, because that traveller was at fault for being robbed and beaten, why else was he on the road to Jericho
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

If Christ lived today, these people would be in line, with hammers in their hands, to nail him to a cross.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If people knew S.S. Jesus was healing leppers, then there would be no incentive for people to avoid leprosy.

-Supply-Side Jesus for the uninitiated.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There's no hate like Christian... hate?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

"Conservative christian" is an oxymoron

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 2 days ago

“They should have tortured Jesus even harder! I woulda fucked him up!”

-Modern Far-Right Christians

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think we can tolerate these ass hats anymore. I no longer have empathy for them.

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[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It’s worth pointing out that empathy is different from sympathy and compassion.

Empathy is basically just understanding someone else. It doesn’t mean agreement or acceptance. Empathy is usually necessary in order to manipulate someone effectively.

That being said there is a component to empathy—sometimes called affective or emotional empathy—that reflects the phenomenon of emotional contagion, or how empathizing with someone else’s feelings can sometimes cause you to feel the same emotion on a lesser level.

Sympathy is understanding another person through shared or similar experiences.

Compassion is caring about someone.

What these Christians are talking about is the way there’s a trail from simple empathy to compassion that can cause some people to get over the bigotry and intolerance they have worked so hard to instill in them.

I have some of these Christians in my family. They are good people who have been taught rotten beliefs, and to avoid any critical thinking about said beliefs. I avoid associating with them as much as possible. Religion is a mind virus and these folks have one of the worst strains.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Jesus wept!

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Jesus rather specifically says to take care of the poor and the widowed, etc.

Having no empathy is also one of the things that mark the evils of the end times.

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

NPD is literally the lack of empathy and compassion. Why would we encourage people to be objectively worse people by discouraging compassion?

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Psychopaths

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