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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

cant have de führer being held accountable for fucking anything

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

He sure can! The cultists love holding him accountable for all the positive things Biden and Obama actually did.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yet more proof that he's unaccountable even when proven guilty. If the system only protects the wealthy, it's not just.

[–] el_twitto@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Goddamnit... Fuck Donald Trump

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not as bad as it seems.

They explicitly did not overthrow the ruling, just the civil damages for being too high.

The thing with civil cases is that you generally have to demonstrate damages. Did the state actually incur $500 million dollars in damages? The oddest thing is the Court bringing up the "cruel and unusual punishment" nonsense. That usually comes into play in criminal law.

This is going to be appealed again, and we'll probably end up with a lower number.

[–] lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If he made $500 million off the fraud, then any lower judgement is a license to do it again.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fines are criminal. Civil cases are about relief for damages suffered by the plaintiffs.

[–] lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ok. He isn't going to suffer any consequences. Criminal or financial. The courts are telling him it was ok and to do it again.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

No, they just have to file criminal charges for every illegal action.

I work in municipal government, and we have to work within this framework, and we do fine. If someone build a fence over their property line into the ROW and doesn'timmediatelyremove it when we point it out, we don't just make them pay a $500 fine and move on. We cite them for every violation they've made. So we get them for blocking the ROW, for construction without a permit, for construction in the ROW without obtaining a license to encroach, for building without registration of contractors, for building outside of the setbacks, for violation of any fence design guidelines, for blocking a fire lane, etc. So that's 7 violates at $500, so it's $3,500.

And as long as it isn't removed, we cite them daily, so that each time the court meets twice a month they get over 50 grand in fines.

That lights a fire under their asses.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

He's still barred from doing business in New York.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

I'm sure donald trump and the Supremes were both surprised.