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Why aren't all blue controlled states viewing this as an act of war? The federal government is literally invading states against the states' will. First LA, then DC, now Chicago? Where the fuck is the line drawn?
Politicians waiting for the public to get riled up. Public waiting for the politicians to start something. Classic bystander effect at work.
I notice a lot of people on lemmy shaming others for not doing anything while they themselves clearly aren't doing anything either
Classic bystander effect at work.
I don't think it's that, but more that nobody wants to be the first. It's going to be a hell of an entry in the history books, and once someone breaks the seal then a lot of activities across the US are going to start being a hell of a lot more lethal.
It's basically a high tension Gordion knot where whoever cuts it gets turned into physics when all the energy gets released from it. Wherever first revolts is probably gonna get ass blasted until things can be organized or until chaos spreads enough that effective assault is made impossible.
I don't control local police forces or national guards or even any militia groups. The best i can do it stockpile liquor bottles and Styrofoam
Depends. Are they American to begin with? If not, the rest of us are just watching this particular shitstorm, if you don't mind.
Yeah, as a non-American, having lived with being exposed all my life to the American propagated myth about Americans being the most freedom loving and individualistic people on Earth, it is a bit curious to see how quick and unopposed the implementation of dictatorship in the US is.
The average person has not been personally impacted enough to do anything about it. Until they are, and a large enough number of people feel they're on a path to losing everything, will they do something about it.
You can't get more selfishly individualistic than the current American response to fascism, but this is nothing new. They couldn't even agree that everyone deserves healthcare.
The weird thing is, is that the people criticizing the people who criticize those not doing anything are themselves not doing anything either. Not an American btw. It's bystanders all the way down!
while they themselves clearly aren't doing anything either
We're doing something. We're pooping!
Remember the Ok Corral scene in Tombstone, where they all freeze with their guns out, and wait for the other guys to make the first move?
That's where we are right now.
Everybody has their own red line. I have two.
The first is a person very close to me, who is a member of multiple vulnerable demographics. If anything happens to them, it's on. I'd become a very dangerous person.
The second is elections. We have NEVER suspended elections in America, not even during the Civil War. If elections are suspended, America ceases to exist, and if that happens, then I have no obligation to pay taxes or follow ANY laws. It's Robin Hood Economics, and I'm heading for the nice neighborhood.
If I learned anything in my life so far, it's that no one ever comes to help.
I can't wait for them to try it in NYC.
They'll draw the line when it's too late to stop it
He didn't manufacture shit, he just lied.
Of course, because Trump and the GoP are the entire crisis in this country right now. They are so openly evil and corrupt now that they have to use desperate theatrics to keep their minority base of wicked, debased, self-harming, homicidal imbeciles in line.
You don't say? Give the Democrats 6 more months and maybe they'll finally have caught on to the fact that Trump is establishing a dictatorship. They might even start thinking about maybe saying something about it. Just in time for the part where they all get arrested and locked up, which means it will be too late.
You just need a couple more of them to reach across the aisle and find common ground with Republicans and then everything will turn out ok.
What?! When did this all start?!
Honestly if I were working to establish a dictatorship in the US I would keep them around, its always useful to have a fake opposition around in order to feign democracy and you couldn't ask for a more oblivious and toothless opposition than the democrats.
Don't you worry bucko, Chuck Schumer is about to write a strongly worded letter up in this bitch
That's crazy
Release the Epstein files
It ain't happening. They already stopped caring. So have most people.
We all knew it would go away, but it should serve as a pretty profound reminder that we don't have rule of law anymore, and we have the exact same fucking situation that we declared independence as a nation from. The SAME thing.
I don't think so, actually. This is Trump's Benghazi. The coverup is worse than the crime. What is Trump hiding? We can hit him with his own conspiracy theory
We can hit him
There's several thousand things we "can" do and hit him with, but the problem is we we're not doing those things. Or more specifically, we have not done of this broadly for so long that we're now relying on the goddamn democrats to be our final bastion of defense against losing democracy entirely. We let too many angry young men become incels and let our moron neighbors retreat to their own online spaces unchallenged. It's set-in now, it's a stain. We will never undo it.
No, seriously, they're deploying military forces on political enemy cities, our time for making his base raise their brow and go "Hmnn! What is he UP TO!" is long over. They sidestepped the Epstein thing and just plowed right through, and most of the base moved on too. They have the judicial branch, they have house and senate, they do not care.
We can keep talking about it when we talk to people already shaky in their support, but we're moving into endgame territory, it's going to take some huge, catastrophic event to bring this to a head, such as national guard soldiers and deaths on one or both sides, or some other bloodbath that changes American narratives. Right now in sites like Lemmy and Reddit most of the people are still not taking this seriously are chanting "nothing ever happens" as they sit there doing nothing. Gen Z broadly wants to check out and roleplay and play games right up until they can't anymore.
If you can get people rallied to get involved in social programs, local elections and city/county policy, it would be our best bet for saving the future, even if it takes generations now. But it's gonna be shit for a long time because too many people who actually cared hid.
What Trump is "manufacturing", is a civil war. He has already taken steps to fortify his position in DC, and is now planning to invade several cities / States that he deems a potential threat to his rule.
If any of his actions are met with resistance, he will simply invoke the Insurrection Act and declare martial law across the entire country, fully activating the US military in the process. At the end of the day, they can either go along with it willingly, or he will take what he wants by force. Checkmate, Libruls.
And once he declared Martial Law, he will suspend elections. Remember how excitedly he leaped on Zelensky's mention of suspending elections in his country?
The MAGA Nazis are spending a lot of time thinking about this. They don't ever intend on leaving. It will take a LOT of violence to dislodge them.
So basically I can stop reading Philip K Dick and just watch the news?
“Manufactured crisis” is basically trump’s middle name
He slides into it as a distraction like tiny hotdog slides into the corn part of a corn dog, I assume. I actually don't know how corn dogs are made.
This was the plan all along. Keep making shit up to keep us scared and upset about it. While they take everything away from us.
Yes, that is indeed what narcissists do: permanently creating crisis to keep people on their toes and attention firmly tuned on themselves.
If there's so many States' national guards surrounding the White House in DC right now, why havent the attacked Trump yet?
Isn't their job to protect Democracy?
It's all of their jobs to protect us from all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, and nobody is a bigger national security threat than Trump.
So they're instructing local PDs to keep the national guard out of the city
Right?
In a reasonable world.
We diverged from that world sometime around 2013 - 2016.
I’ve got lots of thoughts on this. At the moment, I’d just like to say FUCK THE TROOPS. You follow these orders, you’re the problem.
Manufactures crisis=Manufactures consent
Release the pedo files!
I remember when people said that we shouldn't do anything drastic because Trump would use it as an excuse.
Turns out he doesn't need an excuse, he can just make shit up. Who knew? 🤷♀️
This will not go the way they think it will.
Putin and the HF is counting on civil unrest to occur. Depending on it. But they fail to realize this isn't a North VS South thing.
This is tyranny VS insurgency. Except the US is big. Extremely big. The population ~350m people.
I didn't give Trump permission to send troops to Chicago
Found JB Pritzker’s account.