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Tim Walz Trolls ‘Manchild’ Trump, 79, for His Cankles (www.thedailybeast.com)
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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 98 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

I know Walz/Harris was impossible given the Biden lead-up and Harris running the show after, but if Walz was the ticket leader I think Trump would have lost.

Trump is a dark triad personality wearing a working-man's death mask, and his base sees it and marvels at how "real" he is. But Walz knows how to actually be real, actually communicate like a regular guy, and is just good in the way middle America likes to imagine itself.

His Harris campaign bounce following "weird" would likely have held the swing state firewall, until Harris decided she wanted to bring in Liz Cheney and put a muzzle on Walz to not offend (or inspire) anyone. Given our poor Democrat name recognition options (Harris, Newsom...Jefferies?), maybe Walz is our best hope, if we somehow make it to a fair election in 2028.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

if Walz was the ticket leader I think Trump would have lost.

Setting aside the fact that he's got more charisma than a tree stump, he's also a middle aged white guy in a country that reflexively defers to that kind of person.

I don't think Walz solves for Trump's biggest advantage - Silicon Valley broke for him and turned social media fully against the Democratic Party. He would have done less bad than Harris, particularly in the Midwest. But winning? Idk, still feels like a coin toss to me. He's not flipping Arizona or Georgia like Biden managed.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hard disagree on the AZ front. The heelturn parading around Liz Cheney resulted in waaaaay too many "SEE THEY'RE THE SAME" protest votes or people staying at home.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Cuddling up to Cheney was party of Harris's effort to look like a Never Trumper.

She thought it would differentiate her and she got very upset when people accused her of looking like a Republican as a result.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I voted for Harris because of Walz. If she had picked another wallpaper running mate like Tim Kaine it would have been a lot harder.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For real?

It's just that hard to actively trust fascism or what?!

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

For real, I had major, major issues with Harris, she was an awful candidate and had it literally been anyone but Trump I would not have voted for her:

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article233375207.html

ACAB - Including (especially?) Harris.

Walz put her over the top for me.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, she's an authoritarian cunt.

Still, wasn't hard to care against Mango Mussolini.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

wasn’t hard to care against Mango Mussolini.

Liberals keep saying this, because they weren't out in the trenches stumping for Harris while getting actively spit on.

Like, this isn't just a matter of voting. It's a matter of staffing campaign offices and galvanizing low info voters in Midwestern swing states.

Who is going to canvas the neighborhoods once you've told all those Penn State freshman with Bernie Sanders bumper stickers and watermelon flags to fuck off? Who is going to phone bank? Who is going to knock doors and host rallies?

Harris shed fifteen million votes in no small part because she told her activist party base she didn't need them to win.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Bullshit. They rigged the machines in the swing states to switch Harris for Trump. That's how we ended up with MILLIONS of straight Dem tickets with Trump at the top, even though we've never heard from a single voter who voted that way.

Where are these diehard Dems who vote for Trump? Or Trumpers who vote all Dem? They don't exist, the election was rigged.

And we all know it. Without the White House, he'd be sitting in prison for the rest of his life right now. The guy's entire life is defined by cheating in every possible way, but now we're supposed to believe that the one election that would keep him out of prison, is the one election he ran "fair & square?"

Any Dem who believes that is as deluded as any MAGA.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

They rigged the machines in the swing states to switch Harris for Trump.

That's a big claim. I'm confident you have some big evidence to explain how Biden won in 2020 with similarly rigged machines?

That’s how we ended up with MILLIONS of straight Dem tickets with Trump at the top

We didn't have millions of straight Dem tickets with Trump at the top. We had millions of tickets with only Trump selected and the downballot ignored.

Trump votes outnumbers a bunch of downticket winners, particularly in the purple swing states (Michigan, Arizona, and Pennsylvania). North Carolina was a peculiar case, in which the Dem Governor outran Harris by 300k votes while Trump outran his GOP Gov candidate by 600k votes.

A bunch of these races just highlighted how big a disparity was between Trump and the rest of the GOP versus Harris and the rest of the Dems. He was unusually popular. She was unusually intolerable.

Without the White House, he’d be sitting in prison for the rest of his life right now.

If only there had been a four year span during which he might have been prosecuted. Ah well.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, when she nominated Walz I was like "Oh, thank god!"

[–] Soulg@ani.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"thank god I can vote against the Nazi now, him being a Nazi wasn't enough"

[–] ProIsh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

No shit. I'd have crawled across glass to vote for Harris. Fuck Trump and stop blaming Biden for people supporting that nazi ass bitch.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not if the alternate was solely a Nazi in sheeps clothing.

Same problem as Clinton, really. If either Clinton or Harris had been elected, we never would have known where the bottom was, they're better at hiding it than Trump.

Marginally better than Trump is a low fucking bar, but no other viable alternatives so...

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What?! Have I hit my head and gone into an alternate dimension?

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Don't worry, they'll do some mental gymnastics to assure you that Harris was somehow just as bad.

Usually walking back to Palestine. Like, we get, it but the current regime was understood to be worse for everyone, including Palestine.

Edit: https://i.imgur.com/2EPlkhf.png

[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, for sure. I mean, the lemming I replied to is quite infamous... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It was really hard to vote for a woman and not an fascist dictatorship

Edit: Sorry, black woman... because sexism isn't enough, you got to be racist also

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What if I told you Harris has a fascist track record?

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article233375207.html

ACAB - Including Harris.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

What if I told you they are all fucking terrible people? But somehow, for a majority of it, they follow the laws set forth before them... at least they have been pretending. Until trump, none of them decided to wage war by sending military troops to states in the country they are supposedly leading...

Do you know what acab means? I'm not sure what that has to do with any of it...

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago

How does that make sense? There is not a single thing that could have happened to make me even CONSIDER voting for Trump. Harris could have chosen a shit-flinging gibbon, and I would voted for her.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean, if Harris could have found it within herself to "actually be real" and fire the dipshit advisors telling her to obsessively triangulate on nonexistent conservative swing voters, she could've won too -- even without switching around the ticket.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'd support him. I've always liked Minnesota Democrats.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

if we somehow make it to a fair election in 2028.

Narrator: They didn't.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I disagree. Walz/harris/biden were all bandaids to the root cause. The direction of the us now was inevitable - whether it was done now or 4 years from now or 8. And maybe on some level we got lucky with t, he’s a lot of things but a genius he is not. In any case, the bandaid has been ripped off and perhaps in 50 years the us will actually support its citizens. We just need to survive until then…

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 70 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Just a quick note - He's human excrement who has cankles. He's not human excrement BECAUSE he has cankles. :)

Ditto Greg Abbott. He's a waste of space in a wheelchair, he's not a waste of space BECAUSE he's in a wheelchair.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

I'm just saying... He was useful before getting crushed by that tree. Had he not been there to cushion the blow, something or someone of value could have gotten really badly hurt.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My dude, why are you denigrating human excrement?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry, you're right, there's always a chance excrement can grow something. 😜

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tbf he’d probably grow something if you put him in the ground too

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago

God give me the strength to test this hypothesis.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Walz reminisced about his former running mate, Kamala Harris, stating she “would have been a fantastic president,” and that if she had won, “we would wake up to an adult with compassion and dignity and leadership doing the work, not a manchild crying about whatever is wrong with him. May his fat ankles find something today. Petty as hell.” His audience broke into a round of raucous applause.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Ol' Tim "I agree with everything JD Vance said during our debate" Walz over here.

I actually don't blame him for that, really. The campaign started off great and then they got too scared. Instead of leaning into what was working, they backed off and neutered Walz.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Lol I would be so happy if every single time Trump's name was mentioned/written/broadcast/etc, it was with his age.

Well, I'd be happiest if he was dead.

[–] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

omg that headline 😙🤌

[–] Alenalda@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Second one I read that nearly had me running for the champagne.

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