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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 107 points 3 weeks ago

Waiting for someone in Europe to sue them.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 79 points 3 weeks ago

I use F-droid for everything. I'd truly be fucked.

[–] tenchiken@anarchist.nexus 76 points 3 weeks ago

Chaos and rebellion.

Sell off any phones that I can't modify. Aggressively de-Google while setting up fake accounts to send garbage into their system training.

Light my way with the burning of bridges.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hoping that EU comes to the rescue.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

google saw that EU allowed apple to do something similar, so why not take the chance to lock the garden...

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah they wont.

Sure, they are really good on the right-to-repair issue, but that's because they want to be more independent and less reliant on other countries to make new phones. As for privacy and information control, the government don't really have an incentive to give people more privacy and freedoms. They are still trying to pass chat control with a majority of the EU members in support (the only reason its not passed yet is because EU laws need to be unanimous)

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You obviously don't understand EU, it's far from only right to repair, but EU has many protections against American shenanigans, like tracking and storing of personal data, and right to be forgotten (GDPR). EU Also dictated Apple should allow sideloading, something Apple of course mostly circumvented, but they could face steep fines for that too.
EU also has way stricter regulation than USA and UK on mass surveillance. And generally way better consumer protection than USA.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

EU also mandates de-anonymisation online: (1). EU also plans to have every single message one sends to be scanned by them.

I think the reasoning behind their decisions is simply summed up as: more power to the EU administration, less freedom for everyone else, be it US tech giants, EU citizens or small software developers.

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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 56 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

For the immediate future, I'll be all set with GrapheneOS.

Beyond that, I'll suffer whatever inconveniences I need to in order to avoid this bullshit. If that means I can't use my banking apps, I'll find a better bank, or use the web site, or just say "fuck it all" and stop banking on my phone altogether. I've already given up NFC payments. It's not the end of the world.

This will only become a bigger pain in the ass as time goes on, I'm sure, but I will die on this hill. I suggest that everyone draw their lines in the sand sooner rather than later.

[–] hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

this pain in the ass seems to be cyclic with regards to open source things. over the last 30 odd years of my being in the flow of doing my own thing with my own hardware, it seems like we hit peaks and valleys of "company does something frustrating" -> "community sorts it out". rinse and repeat.

it'll be bumpy but someone will figure it out and we'll start the cycle again.

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

I'm so tired of this shit man, I no longer have any real plan.
I'm seriously considering carrying the smallest x86/ARM Tablet capable of running Linux I can alongside some cheap phone for 4G hotspot and calls/strictly necessary.

Guess PC land is the last place we still have freedom (for now!!!! 🙄🙄🙄)

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Once my phone becomes that limited I may as well go back to a feature phone after mine stops being usable.

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Honestly no idea. It's hard enough finding a phone with an audio jack, and now I have to find a phone with an audio jack, and an unlockable bootloader so I can install another OS?

Just seems like my way of living is incompatible with modern society. It's all just too hard

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 weeks ago
  1. I'll believe it when I see it.
  2. I'll begin transitioning to a different linux-based os
[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Trying to import a Pixel 10 from outside of the states for the Sim slot.

Then GrapheneOS and run it into the ground.

I really hope Graphene partners with Fairphone, helps them get their security up to par, and make the Fairphone the official Graphene phone.

Then I could just use Fairphone forever.

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[–] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There hasn't been anything Google on my phone for a while now, so I'll first wait and see how they regain control over my phone :D

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the ":D" really made the comment, its like the "this is fine" meme, but simplified to 2 characters xD

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[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 21 points 3 weeks ago

We'll have to see how they implement it first. If it's just through Play Protect, I'm fine as I'm already not using that. If not, guess I'll have to make-do with a Linux phone.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm going to wait for someone else to figure out a workaround and write a tutorial. Then wait for some indian youtuber to make a video tutorial out of that.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Without someone mumbling into a buzzing mic, I don't believe its authenticity.

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[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So how long until celluar providers also say you have to have a trusted device to activate your SIM? Apple, Google, Samsung, automotive and Windows would be fine and they’d probably allow their branded or limited hotspots.

This would basically eliminate any Linux option (pc or phone), and DIY devices. I could see other OOB vendors getting on board to be certified to have a certificate issued to them.

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[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm probably going to spam this around a bit, since most people don't seem to know about it, but a reminder that FuriLabs has a (GNU+)Linux phone with decent spec.s and the ability to run Android app.s (from what I've heard) pretty decently: https://furilabs.com/

Biggest drawback is it's based on Halium. Usual growing pains of a new product/company apply but apparently the company is pretty responsive and their dev.s have worked with customers to get things like calling working with the carrier and bands of their country where it hasn't worked before so improvements move pretty quickly.

Collection of different experiences I've variously seen online over the last year or so:

I don't own one, myself, so I can't give any personal experience but I've seen it around for a few years now but most people don't seem to even know about it. Maybe there's a reason for that? But none I've ever seen anyone say.

(all that said, – if they take PayPal – I'm gonna buy one with PayPal credit as soon as humanly feasible; the end goal, for me, was always to move to Mobile Linux, eventually, so I'm very interested to try out if this makes it finally feasible, for me)

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[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

The ban is only in Brazil, Singapore, Thailand and Indonesia. Terrible, and those are some of the bigger markets, but I am not affected in a years time. I will have to see more as we approach the date on working around it.

[–] Areldyb@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The change is global, but it's hitting those countries first (2026).

From the official post about the change:

  • October 2025: Early access begins. Invitations will be sent out gradually.
  • March 2026: Verification opens for all developers.
  • September 2026: These requirements go into effect in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand. At this point, any app installed on a certified Android device in these regions must be registered by a verified developer.
  • 2027 and beyond: We will continue to roll out these requirements globally.
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[–] qwestjest78@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Gonna push me to using a dumb phone and a Linux laptop I guess.

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not sure really.

I like the idea of alternatives like a Linux phone OS or a custom ROM like Graphene, but I also hate the idea of needing to faff around with my phone to make it work how I want it to.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 16 points 3 weeks ago

Get a Fairphone. Install Lineage on my current phone, install Linux on the Fairphone.

[–] simple@piefed.social 16 points 3 weeks ago

Not updating my phone for now. Installing a custom ROM on my next phone

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Strongly Considering going back to a Prepaid burner style and just carrying a laptop everywhere.

I don't need to be that connected.

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[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Pray for lawsuits.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago

my plan is not updating my phone until the google plan is reversed.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 weeks ago

Stay on GrapheneOS as long as I can, then look for an alternative OS like trying Linux phones again and maybe they will be ready for prime time by then (hope springs eternal and all that).

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably grapheneos until it dies (thanks Google) then 2 phones, a cheap stock one at home shutdown and no sim, only for critical services that are exclusively app based, and a Linux phone as my main.

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[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I have been using custom ROMs since CyanogenMod and am currently mostly on GrapheneOS, some of it entirely Google-free.

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[–] RedIce25@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hopefully GrapheneOS can be my solution since I've got a Pixel 7a, but I first need to move over all my 2FA accounts because Twilio Authy does not work on GrapheneOS 😭

[–] Peter1986C 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

FYI, Aegis works on GrapheneOS if you need a recommendation (in terms of an app for 2FA).

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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 12 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I ordered a Pixel and plan to flash Graphine. I hate the cruel irony of paying Google to degoogle a phone, but my current phone is on its last legs.

Hope to keep this one alive a good few years, after that I have no clue. I hope Linux phones catch up.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 10 points 3 weeks ago

Im sorta lazy. Did not switch to linux until windows 11 even though I should have after windows 7. I use the android that came on the phone because im lazy but I have to be able to sideload so this may turn out to be androids windows 11.

[–] m4xie@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've been meaning to get around to installing GrapheneOS on my phone (Pixel 7 pro) for a while now. I'll make sure my next phone has a LineageOS ROM available.

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[–] ritten@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Burn google down

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm probably going to have get a separate phone for work, need a few apps that I don't foresee working on a Linux phone anytime soon.

"The apps don't work on my phone" won't fly as an excuse lol, and I like my job most days.

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[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I've been looking into pure Linux Phones like Ubuntu touch and the Kali Mobile thing. Shame that its limited to hardware that I can't find here

[–] massi1008@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I haven't fully researched that topic yet but should I be safe with e/os?

[–] disevani@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

For now... Google is developing AOSP more and more behind closed doors, which is more troubling for other Android based OS's. So even if e/OS is not (much) effected by this 'sideloading' thing, other choices Google makes will destroy something at some point.

If Google is going to build this "sideload protection" in the core of Android, this is going to be very bad, even for e/OS.

Fuck Google.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

If this actually happens, my next phone will probably be a dumb phone, unless I can find a true linux phone.

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