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[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 6 points 13 hours ago

chuckles nervously in GrapheneOS

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Start watching YouTube in Firefox, I guess. I can't deal with ads and I'm not paying one of the richest companies in the world an ever increasing monthly fee for the rest of my life.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Were you not supposed to use firefox?

I've always been using firefox + unlock origin, never messed with apps because they are annoying.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I also use Firefox focus as my default browser, but it doesn't do ublock origin unfortunately. But everything is temporary for all those one off links you probably open.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

Normal firefox can do the same, just set it to "delete browsing data on quit"

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I prefer YouTube ReVanced. It does a lot more than just block ads.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

See, the way I'm thinking about it is that, I like my browsing to be non-persistent.

Ideally (if I actually remember to do OPSEC correctly that is), I would clear browsing data before leaving my house, so if some cop seizes it, they won't be able to see all the stuff I watched, just a clean browser, same with Lemmy, it gets logged out and data cleared before I go somewhere I deem insecure. Apps can leave residues/temp-files. I just don't like the idea of "Apps".

(And of course, all traffic goes through VPN, and for Lemmy, also TOR.)

[–] network_switch@lemmy.ml 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Planning to become a primary iphone user with a PostmarketOS side phone. Want I want in the future is that if I'm using Android apps, it's through Waydroid or Android Translation layer. Then hopefully in my lifetime I see non-Android Linux become popular. Or a non-commercial organization take lead on an Android fork that gets significant adoption

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

What phone are you planning to run postmarket os on? They have like a long list of supported devicws and honestly IDK which one to pick if I were to hypothetically go with with postmarket os

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 12 hours ago

Might have to check their list and see what I can obtain cheaply

[–] network_switch@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

I'm thinking of buying a fairphone or test it out. I do have a pixel 7 that I can give it a go with

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 21 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Trying to import a Pixel 10 from outside of the states for the Sim slot.

Then GrapheneOS and run it into the ground.

I really hope Graphene partners with Fairphone, helps them get their security up to par, and make the Fairphone the official Graphene phone.

Then I could just use Fairphone forever.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The 10 might not get graphene due to changes in the way the hardware is done. If you want graphene now, grab a pixel 9 instead. Or at least wait till they have an official statement for it.

[–] Skorp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

They have officially stated that they can support the 10 now, but it will have to wait until after the port to QPR1. https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1960792610114511190#m

[–] GalacticTaterTot@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I'm probably being too optimistic, but they've gotta have a switch in dev settings to disable this check, right? I really hope they're not truly, full stop, not allowing you to side load apps that don't meet this stupid requirement.

FFS they just had that awful Pixel 10 launch event where they talked about Android being open and what not.

[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

To add do your FFS:

Aren't they also adding a proper Linux Terminal with the next Android? You do this but ban installing non-store apps? Make it make sense!

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago

A while back, there were rumors of Microsoft banning piracy from windows, then it turned out to be a nothing burger. I hope this is the same.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 12 hours ago

Nokia still sell phones, better battery life too. Was curious about webOS or what ever it was that a few fairly low spec phones were using although not sure if that died off.

Realistically it would just become a device I have to have because of the stupid expectations of society, but I won't care about or respect it. Get the cheapest second hand one I can find and use until it breaks. Get a call/SMS only SIM, mine is PAYG but currently subbed to a monthly £4 bundle for unlimited minutes and texts.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago

Pray for lawsuits.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago
[–] python@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Lucky patcher will handle it, I suppose

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

Lucky Patcher still around?

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 7 points 22 hours ago

gonna stop buying ARM based devices until they figure their FOSS shit out to the extent x86 had in 2022

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 9 points 23 hours ago

I'll stay on GrapheneOS as long as possible. And if it stops, I'll get a Linux phone.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Strongly Considering going back to a Prepaid burner style and just carrying a laptop everywhere.

I don't need to be that connected.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The Punkt Mp02 would be great for that.

You get a feature phone that can still do hotspot so you can get data to your laptop

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 22 hours ago

Oh my god that's incredible

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[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago

Stay on GrapheneOS as long as I can, then look for an alternative OS like trying Linux phones again and maybe they will be ready for prime time by then (hope springs eternal and all that).

[–] jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk 6 points 23 hours ago

Wait and see. The only reason for buying any hardware is to run on it the software I want to use.

[–] angband@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I already moved back to a paper calendar in my diary, two years ago. my passwords go into firefox and also a paper contact book. recently google has started interfering with the firefox manager🥳 but mostly I have disabled it. I think it probably still captures keys but I dunno. chicken and egg - how can it ask to save the password if it didn't sniff the firefox page?

Home is now a rasberry pi/steam deck/linux combo with still one comp running windows for games but turned off most of the time. I don't take notes outside of sending to a group of myself in signal. I put all the android games on a cheap tablet and I am contemplating grapheneos for the phone, but for now using a window manager from fdroid, with cuts down on a lot of the google assistant fuckery.

overall, I am not sure. I think as long as I can use the fdroid apps, manager and clock, I am mostly ok. I leave the screen on and plugged in to keep google from killing the alarm clock, but I am keeping an eye out for a nice alarm clock in the future, which maybe chats to home assistant on the pi, because I do want accurate time.

The biggest use I make of my phone, and why I have had a pixel for so long, is taking pictures - to show what I do, how I take things apart, what I need to do, parts and serial numbers, hardware. buying/selling/banking.

The camera in my pocket and signal are my killer apps.

As long as I can turn off frickin google assistant, I will probably still use android, honestly. But I started making non-critical parts of my life not-android a while back. My utopia is a private device centered on me and my family, not a data pump for a corp.

google does not provide, even as well as a paper calendar.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

If google blocks my access to Monster Strike I'm buying a Huawei probably

Unless there's an FOSS OS friendly phone these days, that would be cool to try

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I have no plans to make a shift away from Android based purely on this. I already maintain fairly platform agnostic software and service usage patterns just for these kinds of reasons. So just calling smartphones "done" as an active interest and just using whatever is the cheapest thing that gets the job done for as long as possible is not a very hard thing for me to do if it comes to that.

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[–] Deathgl0be@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Im starting to get to a point where I don’t even want to have a phone anymore. Like fuck people in general lol I don’t have many who call or text anyway. The browsing I do I can just stick to my PC.

[–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I use calyxos so it should be fine. but this is so fucking annoying. we need to do something. now if you want android users to install your apps they have to pay to have them on the google play store... and I doubt anyone will stop them. next year will be the year of the linux(not android) mobile.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Didn't calyx OS pause development?

I can't even get images from their website anymore

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

They are not pausing development, but are dealing with some major changes to their team and doing a lot of rework behind the scenes. They are pausing any rollout of new updates for 6 months, according to their plan. In that time they also removed the releases from their website. Hopefully they are able to stick to this plan and resume updates then (it seemed it would require a reflash). But I fear it is over and out.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I sideload two apps and when I can't use them anymore is when I can't trust android. One of them is package disabler pro. I use it to keep androids bloat and spyware shutdown.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I'll need to see what the fuck their answer for personal installs are....my pixel 10 comes in ~~tomorrow~~ THIS WEEKEND (ugh) so by the time I run the wheels off of it, I will know if I'm staying on android or moving to iOS and doing a $99 developer cert

At least apple isn't fucking judging what you sideload

Edit: cert on android is cheaper.....if I'm forced to go that route I'll stick with Google

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

At least apple isn’t fucking judging what you sideload

Um no lol. Fuck Google, Fuck Apple. Big corp always suck.

But lets compare both of their stores.

Apple App Store has zero usable torrent clients.

Lets take a look at Google Play Store. Yep, there's like 5 of them.

Also, Google Play Store only charges you a $25 one time fee for a developer account. You need $99 per year for apple.

Fuck this sideloading restriction bullshit, but even with the autocratization taken into account, Android would probably still be better (for the near future at least, I can't predict what Google would do in 10+ years, but torrent clients have been on the Play Store for like a decade now).

Also, Android allows real browsers. Firefox and browser extensions. Again, idk what Google is gonna do in 10 years, but extensions have been on the official Play Store version of Firefox for a while.

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