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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 106 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Google says it's no different than checking IDs at the airport.

Fucker, if I own the airport, own the planes in the airport, am the only person using my own planes in my own airport, then nobody is asking for my ID.

Our phone, our software choice.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Fucker, if I own the airport, own the planes in the airport, am the only person using my own planes in my own airport, then nobody is asking for my ID.

Okay, but what if Google owns the airport, the planes, and thinks it's entitled to own the people flying on them, to boot?

Our phone, our software choice.

You'll Own Nothing And Be Happy

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

But what if you owned nothing and were happy about it?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago

The minimalist in me would love that. But while I am paying for this shit, it's mine to do what the hell I damn well please with it!

[–] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There it is, haha.

Gave me a good chuckle as i'm with you here.

I have a similar sentiment when it comes to ads, my device, i pay for the internet and the device is inside my home. I'll decide if you get to show me ads.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Read the contracts you sign when you buy your phone and you'll understand how wrong you are. The problem here is we have very little choices. Monopolies kill consumer choice.

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[–] MSids@lemmy.world 52 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (22 children)

The Android ecosystem has been feeling more like an invasive chaotic advertisement machine the past few years. The play store is a cesspool, the weather app switch was poorly executed, Google Podcasts went to the graveyard, and Google pay getting shut down meant I had to switch back to vomits Venmo.

I still have Android gaming handhelds, but why wouldn't I just get an iPhone the next time I go to replace my phone? I can't believe I'm even saying that after being so die hard Android so for years.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 18 points 18 hours ago

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too. Android's only advantage over the Apple ecosystem is being able to install apps. If that goes away there's no reason for me to stay.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

They also managed to remove a feature from the fucking clock app. It's not much, but seriously, it's like a headless chicken running toward a cliff from the business end.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Google pay being shut down is news to me. I still pay contactless with Google pay and also for paying on websites...

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

https://www.androidcentral.com/apps-software/google-wallet

They migrated people over to the wallet. What was shut down was the app called "Google Pay"

[–] MSids@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Yes, sorry I should have clarified. The biggest loss was the person-to-person payments are now gone. I never understood why they had multiple apps that did the same thing. I seem to also remember a time where there was a Google pay and gpay app that lived side by side, so there were a total of three apps when there should have been one.

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 7 points 15 hours ago

Wtf is this

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 22 points 19 hours ago

Well. They will try anyway.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 6 points 20 hours ago

I hope they fail.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 10 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The phone I have now is half way paid off... I will say it. It is a Samsung S23. I didn't want it. It is just my other phone literally died from a single drop of water! I won't get into the details. But I want grapheneOS or the most private OS I can.

Right now I have been carrying my phone less than before. I used to take it even to grocery store trips, but I am just getting sick of the endless monitoring, even if I am a terminally online person. I literally cannot leave my apartment without being on camera since my landlord has all the corridors and exits/entrances on 24/7 surveillance.

I know that a phone can be tracked even when on a private OS. And the EU's rules on wanting a copy of every single message sent out from all messaging apps (including signal) will still affect non-EU people, too. It fucking sucks.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

I'd also say, it's likely rooting your phone would work around this, though I don't recommend that from a security perspective.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Two things especially worth noting from the article.

If you have a non-Google build of Android on your phone, none of this applies.

This means that at least GrapheneOS will be unaffected for now. Other ROMs without gapps will be unaffected only as long as you don't install gapps. Since Graphene has a sandbox for them, I'm assuming it'll be fine. That is, unless Google decides to lock the bootloader entirely.

In September 2026, Google plans to launch this feature in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand. The next step is still hazy, but Google is targeting 2027 to expand the verification requirements globally.

So most users worldwide still have at least 1.5 years until it's implemented. Plenty of time to get a Pixel and install Graphene on it. Or to figure out some other plan.

Don't get me wrong - this is insane, unreasonable and horrible news for everyone. We should push back as hard as physically possible against it. However, at the very least we still have some time to figure things out before the policy rolls out.

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[–] winni@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] kepix@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

so no modded apps, no emulation, no unauthorised chat apps. hopefully some root mod will make this irrelevant.

[–] foxfell@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago

I wouldn’t be so sure they will allow you to do it. First they implemented chrome restrictions for adblockers with manifest v3, then restricted AOSP sources. Looks like they are pretending to be Apple now.

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[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago

Only thing I care about, how will this impact my streaming devices that rarely get is updates

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (9 children)

I am toying with the idea of creating a PDA of sort from a raspberry pie, touchscreen and a powerbank. Case can be 3d printed, it would be bulky af and equipped with Tails or some other secure OS.

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