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Donald Trump’s latest comments about allowing hundreds of thousands of Chinese international students into the United States have drawn criticism from some of the most outspoken members of the Republican Party.

Ahead of his meeting with South Korean President Lee Jae-myung at the White House on Monday, Trump told reporters that he plans to allow 600,000 Chinese students into the country — a figure more than double the number in the United States now.

It’s a sharp departure from an announcement Secretary of State Marco Rubio made in May, when he promised the United States would “aggressively revoke” visas for Chinese students and add more scrutiny to all future visa applications from China.

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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

hates china

hates immigrants

wants chinese immigrants

🤔

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

What makes him think 600,000 Asian students would want to come here?

Where they'll be abused, mistreated, potentially kidnapped and trafficked because some fat powertripping chud can't distinguish between Asian and South American?

The education is garbage. Expensive garbage. And getting shittier all the time.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Sell out with Trump oh yeah.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Well, this is yet another unexpected change from the overly emotional child in the white house.

I'm sure he was bribed or there is some sort of fraud related to this decision.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 5 hours ago

That is 900 million dollars for ICE bounty hunters to collect, at $1,500 a head. 😒

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

His followers will forget how they got here when he deports them a nlfew months later

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago

I guess China has something on trump. At least they operate the same way as trump.

deep sigh of asian relief as I wonder if we don't need to sell our house a a little longer

[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 42 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

China figured out that the orange cancer is a cheap whore and paid for it...

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Doubtful. This was out of a meeting with the South Korean President. Trump probably just got confused and announced the name of the wrong country.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

Wait, isn't China the really big one east of Europe?

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago

What did they pay though? Any new gold ingots been spotted recently? Some curious real estate gifts?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 49 points 1 day ago (4 children)

We won't educate our own students, and build America's own brain trust, but we'll double the number of Chinese students whose government pays to educate them in America, in order to make them more competitive with us.

We are training our own competition, and hamstringing our own defense.

Make America Ignorant Again.

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Go blame your states, for not teaching properly. Even young kids now a days are fucking glued on to their tablets… always using it for entertainment purposes.

My nephew who’s 9 visits us a lot, and he’s glued to his iPad.. even when he’s trying to pick up a chair and bring it somewhere else. It’s disgusting.

That sounds like a parent issue not so much a state issue. I guess you could argue that maybe both the kids parents are working too much and are too tired to parent… which could be considered a state issue.

Anyone know why we keep building schools instead of hiring teachers? I swear every school near me has gotten replaced but the class size is 30 to 1.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, we won't educate the Chinese exchange students either. The US education system is increasingly diploma mills and sinecures for friends of public officials.

Trump's doing the "$5M Visa" gambit. He thinks he can announce "We're going to invite so many students! The best students!" and then slide in a mechanism for channeling kickback into his pocket. But no sane student is going to take him up on this deal. And no quality school is going to want students coming through such a program.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The US education system is increasingly diploma mills and sinecures for friends of public officials.

TIL that sinecure is a Latin word. In Russian it sounds a lot like "a place where you smoke something blue, or emitting blue smoke, or making you blue".

On the subject - the US still designs some of the most advanced things on this planet, so some people do get educated.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

the US still designs some of the most advanced things on this planet

We're rapidly tearing all the wiring out of the walls. Just look at the dismantling of the CDC, the FAA, and NOAA. Mass arrest and deportation of some of the smartest and most talented people in their fields, because they aren't native born (or merely white enough to pass the paper bag test). Feds moving to block the trade of high end electronics or the construction of modern power systems and modes of transport. The sheer volume of financial scams coming on the heels of an enormous tech bubble, combined with mass layoffs across software, automotive, and agriculture sectors.

It's bleak, man. Real "you're a Russian landing your first job in 1989 Moscow" bleak.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago

We're doing the same thing with all the AI LLMs being built as well. We want to ensure we are the dumbest nation on the planet.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago

If someone were actually trying to weaken the US in favour of Russia and/or China I truly can't think of a better way to do it than what he's doing.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Lol conservatives circle racist logic. White people are genetically superior, but are also oppressed. White people are the smartest, but Asians are the best at math and computers. White people are the strongest, but black people just are naturally gifted at sports. White people are the reason we have great things like the engine, but Jews control everything. White people are just harder workers, but Hispanic people need to be the ones doing the hard jobs. Make it make sense Republicans.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's just fascism. The enemy is strong and weak at the same time, depending on what the fascists need at that moment.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'll have you know I'm a black person who is terrible at sports thank you.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 11 points 1 day ago

Just met a 6ft 8 in black college student. Never played basketball in high school or college. Never was interested. I told him he left a herd of crying coaches in his wake.

[–] don@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Make it make sense Republicans.

I’ve heard some tall orders in my day, but this is akin to taking a deep breath, walking out to the sun, and moving it around with your bare hands.

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[–] DarkDecay@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But his administration is gutting education. How many students are really going to want to study here. Heck you could be deported the very next day with flip-flop trump in control

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

Now that he cut the NIH, there would be zero reason for Chinese science students to study in the US, China is much better funded.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

🎵🎶 TACO's modern life (TACO's modern life) 🎶🎵

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't drag Rocko into this, he doesn't deserve that.

Fun fact, that show is now 32 years old, and the final season aired 29 years ago. TIL Netflix made a Rocko's Modern Life special in 2019.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

I'm so old.

[–] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

Laundry day is a very dangerous day.

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

Dementia and Tacos. What a dynamite combination

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

His brain is melting

What a world!

I don’t think this dipshit even knows what he’s saying half the time. He’s like a real time James Joyce novel. It’s just no inner critique - straight from brain to voice.

[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Trump probably thinks more along the lines of 600,000 new workers he can abuse ala FoxConn style. A.k.a. let's import 600k workers who won't complain about shit work conditions and little pay, or even payment in company dollars that can only be used in the company store

[–] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

https://foreignpolicy.com/2008/02/15/mao-offered-kissinger-10-million-chinese-women/

Mao offered Kissinger 10 million Chinese women

SAToday‘s "OnDeadline" blog finds some choice morsels from newly released transcripts of Henry Kissinger’s 1973 meeting with Mao:

You know, China is a very poor country," Mao is quoted as saying during the exchange. "We don’t have much. What we have in excess is women. So if you want them we can give a few of those to you, some tens of thousands." The Chinese leader drew laughter when he returned to the proposition a few minutes later. "Do you want our Chinese women? We can give you 10 million." he said, adding: "We have too many women … They give birth to children and our children are too many."

It’s not clear whether Mao is at all serious — he was a pretty crazy dude, after all — but Kissinger’s response is precious:

It is such a novel proposition, we will have to study it.

EDIT: I'd also add that I was fairly sure that there was a second quote from some other diplomatic exchange in which someone, I thought Mao, offered 1 million Chinese people (not specifically women), with the phrasing something like "What is it that you want? Is it people? We can provide 1 million people", but I guess it's possible that I'm just misremembering some reference to the above.

considers

Might have been me accurately remembering Kissinger mis-remembering too, since I've read some of his material on diplomacy with China, and the source material wouldn't have been declassified at the time the books were written, so I assume that he wouldn't be able to directly use it in writing his books.

[–] ruan@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Your source is not credible.

It's not clear wheter Mao os ar all serious

Yeah, the original transcript is really not clear whether Mao joking or not with that sentence...

Dr. Kissinger: We think they will give it to us. It will be a difficult battle, but we are quite certain we will win. We are proposing it also in such general language that we can remove discrimination that still exists towards the People’s Republic.

Chairman Mao: The trade between our two countries at present is very pitiful. It is gradually increasing. You know China is a very poor country. We don’t have much. What we have in excess is women. (Laughter)

Dr. Kissinger: There are no quotas for those or tariffs.

Chairman Mao: So if you want them we can give a few of those to you, some tens of thousands. (Laughter)

Prime Minister Chou: Of course, on a voluntary basis.

Chairmain Mao: Let them go to your place. They will create disasters. That way you can lessen our burdens. (Laughter)

[Page 131]

Dr. Kissinger: Our interest in trade with China is not commercial. It is to establish a relationship that is necessary for the political relations we both have.

Chairman Mao: Yes.

Dr. Kissinger: That is the spirit with which we are conducting our discussions.

...

Chairman Mao: (Laughing) Those are honest words.

Dr. Kissinger: This is our position.

Chairman Mao: Do you want our Chinese women? We can give you ten million. (Laughter, particularly among the women.)

Dr. Kissinger: The Chairman is improving his offer.

Chairman Mao: By doing so we can let them flood your country with disaster and therefore impair your interests. In our country we have too many women, and they have a way of doing things. They give birth to children and our children are too many. (Laughter) [Page 132]

Dr. Kissinger: It is such a novel proposition, we will have to study it.

Chairman Mao: You can set up a committee to study the issue. That is how your visit to China is settling the population question. (Laughter)

Complete source: https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v18/d12

Ahh, actually the transcript said there was laugther all along that exchange about China being poor and having an excess of woman population, how could this Foreign Policy writer have guessed if Mao was being serious ir not?!

Edit: And I just read a little bit more of the transcript of this conversation, futher down:

Chairman Mao: (Looking toward Miss Shen.) The Chinese have a good command of English. (To Prime Minister Chou.) Who is she?

Prime Minister Chou: Miss Shen Jo-yun.

Chairman Mao: Girls. (Prime Minister Chou laughs.) Today I have been uttering some nonsense for which I will have to beg the pardon of the women of China.

Dr. Kissinger: It sounded very attractive to the Americans present.(Chairman Mao and the girls laugh.)

Mao apologises for his jokes about women in China that were made Just a few moments before... Damn, but who would expect a Foreign Policy article writer to just have read the full transcript of this conversation he was quoting before wondering If Mao was really offering 10 million chinese women as a serious deal... We will really never know If that was a real offer by this Crazy Mao guy to the Saint Dr. Kissing gentleman... 🙄

[–] radiohead37@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Head scratching. That doesn’t even align with the conservative agenda. Which university is filling Trumps pocket for him to make this decision?

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this is because trump is not a conservative, he’s a capitalist. like all republicans and democrats. they will phase in an out of various agendas if it means more profit.

[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hardly a capitalist. I know in practice capitalism rigs the system for the ultra rich but theoretically it's supposed to be free market. He's a perfect example of a kleptocrat.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

kleptocracy is a child of capitalism in its aged state.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't get me wrong, Trump is 1000% a corrupt grifter who's never seen a bribe he didn't take. But I think there's more (and less) to it than that. If you look at his pattern of making decisions based on whatever he saw on Fox News most recently, it's increasingly clear that he's just fucking losing it and becoming dangerously suggestible as his dementia progresses. Any other leader with access to have a one-on-one discussion with him plays him like a damn fiddle.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

And he's got Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller whispering poison in his ear like Wormtongue. Many of the worst things coming out of this administration are straight from PeeWee Himmler.

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