Kudos for a really unpopular opinion, and your rationale is great. I don't know if I'm into it but it's a cool thought.
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I only hate it because most of the time the reason for censoring them is monetization, and that reminds me that the Internet nowadays is not authentic but driven by that and algorithms (not here thankfully).
One stupid trend word that I see on social media (LATAM) that replaced the word "sex" is "detonate" I feel like everyone is talking like a stupid LMAO.
Very Freudian.
Have you considered that swearing is a marker of emotional deregulation, emotion overcoming taboo, and so the increased use might be effect rather than cause, that people are less inhibited by taboo in general, and so their swearing is an accurate indicator of their relationship between social alignment with taboo and individual emotion, and thus your desire to reduce swearing is a desire to see a move away from an emotional individualism and toward a normative social cohesion?
I didn't say I have a desire to reduce swearing, I said that censorship in the form of strikethroughs, bleeps, etc. restores the emotional intensity of the swear.
"I don't give a fuck" reads as dull and apathetic. The swear isn't really conveying anything, it's just lazy filler.
"I don't give a ~~fuck~~" reads as aggressive and emotional. The swear has impact, it conveys intensity.
I absolutely despise it. It feels like I got interrupted while reading it, it feels like screeching (or an interruption depending on how it's done) while hearing it.
imo curse words don't need oomph and they don't need to be taboo, but if they absolutely have to then I prefer they don't exist and the sentences have good flow instead of potholes, bumps and sirens.
Or - and hear me out on this - if you don't want people to read a curse word, don't write it. There's any number of non-curse alternatives to use, depending on how creative you want to be.
This is a bad, naughty word, you shouldn’t be reading it.
Can't wait till I'm all grown up, so I can decide for myself.
Exactly. You are grown up, and you know what the word is.
You are grown up
But it's up to others, what I should and shouldn't be reading
It is a very selfish viewpoint to only consider how a rule will affect you personally.
That being said, I agree with you, just I think that as a society we should clearly delineate what is appropriate for a preteen or younger and what is appropriate for a teen and an adult.
People only get a certain amount of time in their life to be innocent.
Even though we should definitely remove the innocence (that comes from ignorance) from people before they become adults so that they can make informed and logical, rational decisions for their own lives, there should be, like, a generally agreed upon time and place for that to start happening in a newborn human's life, and the more reliably we can clearly communicate that this is a 13 and up, versus a 13 and under, or whatever, the better the world will be for those people.
I'm not doing a great job of explaining, but yeah, basically I think that there should be easy or like an agreed upon cut off in American society where we say this age and under is a poor innocent child and should be protected from all bad naughty no-no words and their ilk and then the point we all agree this person is old enough to know better.
Not to shield them from knowledge, but to allow their innocence to be a larger part of their lives.
basically I think that there should be easy or like an agreed upon cut off in American society
That place never even crossed my mind. I'm to used to have freedom and democracy.
I guess they finally managed to condition people into supporting their hypocritical censorship.
Not really, I'm just bored by casual swearing.
Even better are the censored "curses" (and also slurs) in the subtitles of MeTV etc. where you get people drinking ****tails and a kid moaning about his homework ***ignment, because the censor bot is about as stupid as the DOGE boys cutting everything with "trans" in it. When I have the sound off, it sometimes takes me a few seconds to figure it out, like "there's a ***** in that wall" made sense once I saw the guy tuck the dynamite stick into it.
South Park is infinitely funnier to me with the curse words bleeped out. I dunno why.
There's definitely a context where the bleeps are more comedic than the words themselves. I agree that South Park is one of the times when it is funnier censored.
And then there is this absolute comedy brilliance: https://youtu.be/KUkjrWDv200
I don't think this scene in Brooklyn Nine Nine could ever have hit the same with literal swears as it did with bleeps.
My favorite bleeps are the pinch harmonics in Metalocalypse
It's funny as hell when they bleep a "fuck" and you hear "F-bleep-ck." Like you heard the whole fucking word still but the U was simply higher pitched. 🤣
It's also funny bleeping regular words that weren't swear words to begin with because then even an innocent phrase sounds dirty.
Fully agree, absolutely. Very sensible take!
I think this opinion is objectively bad. More up votes for you
I mean, define "objectively".
Objectively, "objectively" only has one meaning. Otherwise it wouldn't be objective.
I agree with OP. Anyone remember Adam Sandler's "Ode to My Car" song, for example? The radio edit is so much funnier than the straight version. Swearing is boring and gauche, but a little bleep over the obvious course word adds a bit of silliness or maybe a hint of taboo depending on the execution.
I'm down with this. Sometimes I'll just smash @$*#&% if none of the real swears are strong enough too. It's like the string of beeps on tv, the specific words don't matter, it's about how it conveys a mood.
I like it, but not for the same reason. I like it because every time it's done is a big "screw you" to the big American tech's pearl clutching censors. Because every time it's done, as you say, we know what is meant regardless, and it's being said despite the censors' wishes.
I feel like that's kinda the same thing really. I was talking more about reposted twitter memes and stuff, but your perspective is also valid from a corporate media angle.
This reminds me of growing up with my older and younger sibiling, when my younger sib started swearing they had to get a feel for when It was necessary. Me and the older would just look at them with an eyebrow up when theyd swear in situations that did not call for it.
I feel like when someone cant talk without using swears and they are just filler words. censor them why not? Ive seen southpark and metalocolypse referenced and those are good examples of what i mean. If the swears arent necessary to convey the message then they were useless to begin with, and as you said we allready pretty much know what they were from context, I find this pretty funny aswell since it chops up what they are trying to say.
I feel the same way here on lemmy or on youtube etc. If youre a person who swears alot and it has "lost all meaning" just censor it to reach a wider audience. Some people just dont want to hear/read that type of vulgarity and it might even be an issue if there are children in the room or over their shoulder.
I agree. It's always struck me as odd that such a mass of mouthbreathers on this platform congeals every time somebody posts a slightly obscured version of the word "fuck" or whatever else. Like, youre literally attacking the method people use to nullify censorship. You've been presented with malicious compliance to censorship and decided that for some inane reason you need to attack that. Do you really think even a single person reading it is confused about what f~~uc~~k means? Do you think youre harming the cause of censorship by attacking people who have found ways to say what they want to say on other platforms in spite of the lazy corporate attempts at censorship that are confused as to what f~~uc~~k means?
only silly and/or half-assed censorship (like when you can clearly hear the beginning and end of the word) are funny to me but in these cases I agree
That's why I like strikethroughs best