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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every President has called on Kissinger at some point. Even Obama. It’s no surprise at all that HRC would have a professional relationship and even a friendship with the man considering his presence in the administration during her tenure. He never let himself drift far from the seats of power. Ever.

Kissinger was perfectly happy to make himself useful in some way to perpetuate his view of the geopolitical world.

E: Don’t believe me?

Kissinger visited the White House to advise President Barack Obama more than once. And in 2016, Secretary of Defense Ash Carter presented Kissinger with a distinguished public service award from the Defense Department.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/henry-kissinger-dead-leaders_n_5d10ef86e4b0aa375f50baf0/amp

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Every President has called on Kissinger at some point. Even Obama

You say this like people didn't realize Obama lied about being progressive a decade ago...

Dude was neoliberal thru and they. It's just he was so (relatively) young no one knew his first election, and the second there wasn't a primary so the only other option in the general was R

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The man has a Nobel Peace Prize, what more can he do?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

I love how bOtH SiDeS is now a defense.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It’s not meant to be. It’s an inference that the Cold War anti-commie imperialist way of thinking never stopped. As much as we’d like to think that there is dynamic change with each new president, there really isn’t that much other than the surface diplomacy. The US has been conducting geopolitical business very much the same as it has been for multiple decades. That should be pretty obvious when you view our involvement in world events.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As much as we’d like to think that there is dynamic change with each new president, there really isn’t that much other than the surface diplomacy.

So both sides do it.

And therefore Clinton being friends with him is NBD.

If this isn't using "both sides" as a defense, it sure looks like it.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Again, reinterpreting what I said in a limited context to hyperbole.

No, both sides are not the same.

Clinton being friends with him is indicative of what her foreign policy was/would have been.

Exercise some nuance, man.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I see how it is.

"Both sides" is like "vote blue no matter who" in that it's only meant to be used to dismiss criticism from the left.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You’re just making stuff up now.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

You mean to tell me that you've never seen someone say "both sides" when someone to their left criticizes Democrats?

Why is there no insistence upon nuance then?

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I'll leave the in-depth policy statements to future commenters. I just want to know if they did it.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago
[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

The war crime was Hank's finishing move.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably while bill watched- and maybe played with a cigar.

[-] salt 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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