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[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Eh, let's not let Nixon off the hook that easily. The major economic issues can be traced back to 1971, which would his presidency. Also Tricky Dick is the one who established all the draconian drug policies fueled by racism which Reagan pushed harder.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

Isn't "Nixon fucked it up and than Reagan made it even worse" the unofficial motto of the US?

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would argue that Nixon's pardon made future politicians a lot bolder with their crimes.

... But yeah, Reagan put everything in overdrive.

[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

From Civil War reconstruction to Nixon and Trump, the US has never once actually punished corrupt or traitorous leaders.

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah or even the post civil war period.

[–] Broken@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, this is pretty much what I was thinking. Regan gets a lot of crap because corporations exploded during his term. But Nixon was the precursor and far worse in my mind. The 70s were far worse for a lot of reasons. LBJ definitely did his part leading up to Nixon. But all of it can mostly be tracked back to FDR laying the groundwork. But yeah, Nixon is a stand out star of the list.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's scary. We still feel the consequences of Reagan politics 40 years later. How long will we feel the consequences of Trump?

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Brave of you to assume there'll be a USA in the future.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Best case scenario: Balkanization of the US.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That may be great for the long term geopolitical implications but for people's quality of life in the short term that's an incredibly bleak scenario.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sorry, I can't think of a better one. Certainly not Democrats winning the next election. Not saying I'd be opposed to that though!

And yeah, I think people's quality of life will have to suffer a little more before any of this gets better. Thank the guy in charge; it is apparently much easier to destroy a country than to build one.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

DIBS ON THE STATESIAN GYRO

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

In less than 4 years it will be called Putinland.

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

How long did the British have to deal with the fallout from the collapse of the western empire.

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 2 points 3 weeks ago

well given how they deal with their fuckup in Isreal I suppose it will be never

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Depends on who you include as British? Do you mean those who lived under the Western Roman Empire? If so their modern descendants are still dealing with the consequences. If you mean everyone in Britain, well Scotland and Ireland went through several golden ages since then and the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes laid the foundations that would one day result in their descendants conquering half the fucking planet. So for them pretty damned good consequences.

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But either way very long reaching consequences through time.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most certainly but such is the nature of history, no man is an an island and all time flows together. The actions of my long forgotten ancestors who migrated the Pontic steppe before the bronze age still effects me now while I sit in my home in Southern California.

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

US 12 by me and across Michigan is on top of a glacial moraine that was a game trail post ice age and has been used to travel since by everything.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Damned fine example of such examples. Similarly there are trails in Africa that have probably been used by various human species for about a million years, so well before modern man.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's kinda scary. Reagan fucked things up 40 years ago, and You still fill the consequences. And now Trump is fucking things up. How long will that be felt?

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

yeah dude basically ushered in an entire new generation of narcissists. didn't even need any of the lead poisoning to create these younger ones, but it's pretty obvious who they're going to be when they're boomer-aged

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wilson. Wilson started most of this shit. Nixon and Reagan just followed the trail he blazed.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

McKinley also started American Imperialism.

US history is like “Oops, all bastards!”

[–] Smeagol666@crazypeople.online 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bastard covered bastards with bastard filling.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This song from 1982 is relevant:

Grey B-film heroes
Will soon rule the world

I guess we should add reality TV to that.

[–] Smeagol666@crazypeople.online 5 points 3 weeks ago

Bastards all the way down.