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The Narrative Evolves (lemmygrad.ml)

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[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

A lot of users on Twitter were comparing this to saying that racism in the U.S. or its military must be over because Barack Obama became president.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

great analogy

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

First panel should be reporters pre-2/22 saying that Ukraine has a Nazi problem before completely and suddenly denying it as Russian propaganda.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

for sure, there are dozens of mainstream western articles talking about the nazi problem in Ukraine

[+] JustMy2c@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

You are a Russian shill. And we know it.

Yes, a country can have nazis. Especially one that has almost no foreigners.

HOWEVER ONLY RUSSIAN INVADE OTHER COUNTRIES.

Even after they promised NEVER TO DO SO when Ukraine unilaterally got rid of nukes.

That is the biggest traitorous thing any country has done this century. Russia will be boycotted for decades because of their treason to their own signatures.

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yet another person who thinks the conflict started in 2022. You can always tell because they leave out everything Ukraine did prior to the conflict, like the part where they were planning on murdering the entire Russian speaking population of Eastern Ukraine, and the part where they collaborated with France and Germany to buy time for the army to attack the Donbass.

Also,

HOWEVER ONLY RUSSIAN INVADE OTHER COUNTRIES.

LMFAO 😂 need I say more?

[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Idiot took half my comment away? No, Ukraine wasn't murdering anyone... Fkcijg shill looser

[–] ShiningWing@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

[–] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Da, I mean, oh no how did you find out!?!

Please delete this. Yogthos has a family to support. If Putin finds out they've been discovered they'll be fired from their posting job and their children will starve. Have a heart, come on.

HOWEVER ONLY RUSSIAN INVADE OTHER COUNTRIES.

Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya would like a word.

Also they're literally still occupying Cuba in Guantanamo Bay under an illegal, coerced agreement with the Batista regime for a trivial couch money rent which since the Castro revolution has been rejected and demanded to be returned. They need to leave Cuba and stop using it to extrajudicially torture people.

Yes, a country can have nazis.

Careful you're near paraphrasing a Putin speech where he said yes many countries have Nazis, but only Ukraine integrates them into their regular army, venerates Nazi war criminals as national heroes, teaches revisionist education that downplays such crimes, has regular units full of people wearing Nazi symbols, tears down monuments to those who defeated Nazism, etc.

The US refused to honor its word not to encroach NATO up to Russia. Refused to allow Russia into NATO. Refused to stop expanding east and has shown again and again that NATO is an offensive alliance as if its founding including many literal third reich members wasn't a clue that it was kind of problematic.

[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nazis are in every western army in the world.

But does that matter? Nope

Russia attacked them because putin needs to distract attention from his weakening rule. And free new oil fields, etc

You don't HONESTLY think they went to liberate anything but coal oil and gas, did you?

Haha dumb tankie shills hahahahahaha

[–] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Projection.

What were the Minsk accords I wonder and why were they lies. How many times did Russia try and present an off-ramp to the situation?

What about the murder of civilians and oppression of those of Russian descent in the east of the country by these Nazi paramilitaries who the sitting president himself once personally went to ask to stand down (they didn't)?

They haven't taken any amount of gas or oil according to anything I've seen. In fact they've lost sales over this after the US blew up in an act of aggression and violation of international law the Nord Stream gas pipeline which was also German property.

That's projection again on your part. The US actually is stealing Syrian oil. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202209/1275233.shtml

Russia did not want this war. They tried hard to avoid it but your sanctions will never break them. They were supposed to run out of ammo after all within the first six months, then the same was said after 12 months, only now does the west admit they'll never run out and that Russian production far outstrips the combined production capabilities of the US.

If they wanted to seize the country whole they wouldn't have stopped for peace talks with their troops outside Kiev. They wouldn't have pushed hard, they wouldn't have bothered to show up and the US wouldn't have had to send their stooge Boris Johnson there to torpedo those talks so they can continue to use the Ukrainian people as fodder to bleed Russia in an ill conceived and now we know doomed to fail attempt at weakening and isolating them.

Russia may be forced to take the whole country to stop the fanatical Nazi regime there that refuses to be reasonable (many of us suspect Zelenskyy's life would be forfeit if he did surrender or attempted to negotiate) but that was not their intention or choice. They have stated many times their wants are simple and that is removal of the Nazis, demilitarization so Ukraine can't be used against them (that was the whole point of the Minsk lies by the way according to Angela Merkel, giving the Ukrainians time to build up powerful forces to fight Russia), and Ukraine not being part of the offensive, explicitly anti-Russian terrorist organization known as NATO.

[–] NothingButBits@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's one thing for a country to have nazis. It's a completely different thing for a country to be ruled by nazis and have nazi parades. It's a distinction you liberal trolls seem to "forget".

[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

It is not.

You are a shill.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

you're not even a good troll bro please get better material. i dont even wanna fill the ban reason.

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

HOWEVER ONLY RUSSIAN INVADE OTHER COUNTRIES.

Do you even listen to yourself?

And if you want to know who are the greatest traitors, genocidaires, warmongerers, invaders, exploiters, and dirty thieves and extortionists- it's the west, that "defensive alliance" you probably love so much. As soon as your military might declines- likely due to the financial might shriveling away beneath it- you will see firsthand who is going to be rightfully and deservedly boycotted...

[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And that's not even taking into account the whole Canadian Parliament shit

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's been a massive push to normalize nazis in the west via Ukraine. All of a sudden we started seeing the narrative that nAzIs WeRen't All bAd aKchUally, and and how they were really just defending Europe and western values from the gbil gommunist hordes.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

At the same time they try to reduce every enemy as a clone of hitler while whitewashing actual nazi rhetoric.

GDF video about "sure, hamas = nazis" is really good. The entire anti-hamas campaign is built on nazi propaganda tactics.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago

A lot of cognitive dissonance is required to be a liberal nowadays.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

it says "two state solution" too many times for my liking

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wonder if it was intentional on the artist's part to change the helmet after panel 2?

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IMO that cannot be unintentional

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As in, the press functions as the police by enforcing the dominant narrative?

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

No. The artist changing the text on the helmet between panels 2 and 3.