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    [–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago

    How to install Linux on a dead badger (written in 2004, might not work with modern distributions)

    [–] Tja@programming.dev 80 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Mac OS requires... non Apple hardware?

    [–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 1 points 33 minutes ago

    Hackintosh, baby.

    [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Linux people don't know what's going on outside their ecosystem.

    [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 23 hours ago

    I don't know about that, I'm a Linux people and I know how much apple doesn't like people running macos on other hardware. And all the fucker ms is doing with windows 11. It's like on the front page of lemmy every other day.

    [–] kautau@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Gotta pick a new OS for the workstations. ipad

    [–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 9 points 1 day ago

    This is what corporate board members actually say, though.

    [–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    to be fair, i wouldn't expect apple users to know the difference between MacOS and IOS (or whatever runs on ipads)

    [–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    IIRC it's iPadOS which is closely related to iOS. They used to be one and the same.

    iPadOS is a descandent of iOS is a descandent of macOS which is unix-like alongside linux

    but then there's windows which is a bitch ("beach" for .ml users) and is nowhere similar

    [–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    "Apple users" such as the IT professionals who live in their POSIX-compatible shell sessions on compact, powerful hardware that lasts all day on battery? OK, buddy.

    [–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    i have never in my life seen some companies IT department use anything apple. also most stuff is remote connection anyway, so they can chill in their office and do their work.

    [–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I have no idea what kind of life experience you have, but take my word for it as a highly experienced software engineer when I say that MacBooks are a popular choice with professionals in my field and adjacent fields as well because of their high-quality construction, long-lasting battery life, and at its core a POSIX-compatible OS. Yes, the file manager is shitty and all the Apple walled-garden Store nonsense is all Tinker Toy hot garbage, but just install Homebrew and you've got yourself a decent package manager and you're off to the races. Not all "Apple users" are the braindead consumerist zombies you imagine.

    [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 23 hours ago

    Second this. My current company (software) is apple-default and 95% of users stay with MacBook, including devs and IT. VSCode, iterm2 and a browser is where you spend most of your time. With rectangle even the window manager is decent.

    If you really want you can get a Linux box, but the headaches with Okta and other corporate systems are not worth it. Plus that battery life...

    [–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Mac OS requires more power than Windows? Nah, this meme is clownin'

    [–] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

    Yeah, anyone that has ever used Hackintosh, especially on a Laptop, knows that MacOS is much less resource intensive than Windows

    [–] samc@feddit.uk 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    MacOS Requirements: 💵💵💵

    [–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

    Windows Requirements: Massgrave Linux Requirements: 🥔

    [–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    "Oh, good. My slow clap processor made it into this thing. So we have that."

    "No tricks. This potato only generates 1.1 volts of electricity. I literally do not have the energy to lie to you."

    [–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

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    [–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    honestly windows requires more than macos

    [–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Minimum Requirements for macOS Sequoia vs. Windows 11

    macOS Sequoia Requirements

    COMPONENT MINIMUM REQUIREMENT
    Processor Compatible Intel or Apple Silicon processor
    Memory (RAM) 8 GB or more
    Storage 35.5 GB of available storage
    Graphics Metal-compatible graphics card
    Internet Internet connection for updates

    Windows 11 Requirements

    COMPONENT MINIMUM REQUIREMENT
    Processor 64-bit processor with at least 1 GHz and 2 cores
    Memory (RAM) 4 GB or more
    Storage 64 GB of available storage
    Graphics DirectX 12 compatible graphics / WDDM 2.x
    TPM TPM version 2.0 required
    Internet Internet connection for updates

    Key Differences

    • Processor: macOS supports both Intel and Apple Silicon, while Windows 11 requires a 64-bit processor.
    • Memory: macOS requires a minimum of 8 GB, whereas Windows 11 requires only 4 GB.
    • Storage: macOS needs 35.5 GB, while Windows 11 requires 64 GB.
    • Security: Windows 11 mandates TPM 2.0, which is not a requirement for macOS.
    [–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    You forgot the MacOS Sequoia requires a T2 chip, which is Apple's version of the TPM 2.0. So claiming it as a negative for Windows but not for MacOS feels very bias.

    As for the CPU, MacOS needs a at minimum a 4 core i3 (lowest supported CPU) that's running at 3.6 GHZ. This is a much higher minimum for Windows 11.

    The storage requirements aren't being compared the same. The MacOS storage listing is how much MacOS storage space is taken and not how large a drive should be to store and run. Windows 11 takes around 27-30 GB of space when installed, which is less than MacOS.

    In short, MacOS does take up more resources to run. The difference is Apple is strict in cutting off which systems can run it to prevent the end user from noticing the bloat whereas Windows will let you install it on a much slower base system.

    (Yes, you can override the MacOS requirements with open core legacy patcher, but you can also override spec requirements such as the TPM 2.0 requirements of Windows with unofficial patches. The difference is, you'll notice MacOS starts to get real sluggish on older MacOS because they don't have that extra power the newer versions need. I noticed it myself when I used OCLP to forcefully upgrade MacOS on unsupported hardware).

    [–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    oh that was intel machines not the current gen’s based on ARM, but that’s wild they did that I wasn’t aware i’m an old mac head back when 2 gig ram any mac cpi could run os x. shit back when os x ran on powerpc:/ i’m old aren’t i

    [–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

    guess they got new hardware to sell

    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Sure, potato is nice, but also running Linux on an actually powerful machine is also very nice. I love compilations of some things being reduced to seconds from minutes. It spoils you and you never want to go back to potat.

    [–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

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    [–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    I'm mostly bottlenecked by IO performance and network speeds. So in order to happily take advantage of a blazing fast machine I'd need to do some upgrades everywhere else. As long as I don't get one, I won't feel the need to update. I got real close the other day transferring 1.5 TB of data to a backup drive over 1Gb after doing some file server to file server shenanigans over 2.4ghz wifi with a 32GB filesystem image.

    FYI, decompressing an image on a fileserver back onto the server through a laptop, then writing the decompressed image on that server to a disk connected to said laptop, all over 2.4ghz WiFi, is a monumentally stupid way to do things. Many circumstances were involved, the biggest of which in this escapade was me unwilling to walk across the house because of... I don't know, reasons. The second biggest being I had already pressed enter, so screw restarting the process in a way that would be 4x or more faster, I was already 10% done.

    [–] Sxan@piefed.zip -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    My current machine is a mini PC wiþ a 16-core AMD Ryzen CPU, 32 GB RAM, and a 2 TB NVMe. It's a mobile CPU wiþ integrated graphics, and yet... I have not boþered to set up swap, and it's just insanely fast compared to my prior main computer, a Dell XPS.

    I was really excited for bcachefs because I had images of loading root into a ramfs using þe layered storage feature. I'm still sad about þe drama.

    Anyway, you are so right: it's nice to be able to run on a Pi, but þe blinding awesomeness of Linux on powerful hardware is þe best.

    [–] tau@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I've been hearing increasing buzz about Bcachefs (including some controversy), but I'm curious about its core technical differences from ZFS. What are Bcachefs's big features, and how does it differ from ZFS?

    [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 1 day ago

    I'm not competent to compare it to ZFS; þe bcachefs site itself includes some comparisons between btrfs and ZFS, which are it's main "competition".

    Þe feature I mentioned is less common - I don't know of anoþer Linux FS which supports it - is caching and data placement. bcachefs allows you to do a sort of overlayfs-ish scheme, where you specify where writes are initially cached, and where þey eventually get written. Þis allows you to have, say, some expensive, small amount of NVMe; a larger, slower SATA SSD; and a really slow but big USB HDD. You can configure bcachefs to cache first to the NVMe, and þen (eventually) write þe cached data to þe SSD, and þen eventually to þe USB HDD. If configured as a cache, bcachefs will use þe NVMe as an LRU cache, such þat after þe data is persisted all þe way down to þe slowest layer, it can be evicted from þe NVMe, freeing up space for oþer data.

    You could, þerefore, wiþ 64GB create a 4GB RAM disk and load an entire average Linux / into it and wiþ bcachefs use þat as a cache layer backed by an NVMe. / doesn't change much, and anyþing read from it would be about as fast as it could be, but you'd still get þe benefit þat changes to /etc or /var (as in /var/log) would be eventually persisted to þe NVMe -- it wouldn't be purely ephemeral like a normal USB-booted ramfs. Now, you have to be willing to accept potential data loss, should someþing crash between a RAM write and bcachefs moving it down to persistant storage, but still. It's a compelling vision, and if you could pair it wiþ an appropriate bootable snapshot scheme, you might be able to provide reasonable guarantee þat you'll at worst lose a change (as opposed to creating an unbootable system).

    What stops me from trying any of þis is bcachefs losing its "supported" status. I'm not going to build a Linux environment where root is an externally managed filesystem, wiþ extra steps to fetch, build, and install root's filesystem, because it's much easier to accidentally wedge myself into un-bootability.

    [–] abfarid@startrek.website 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Ngl, that second meme is so bad, it hurts me physically. "iPad" for workstation OS? If they meant iPadOS, it would've been "iOS" at the time anyone would consider Vista.
    Linux is "unlimited"? As in "open source"?

    And honestly, in early 2010s, when Vista was still relevant, Linux wasn't really a choice yet (for the vast majority). I know, cause I tried.

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Where can I buy a Mac in a PC case with RGB? Not that I would, I'm just curious.

    [–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Hackintosh is dead though.

    [–] Anivia@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Not yet. I run it as a daily driver on my Thinkpad.

    But Apple is killing support for x86 Macs soon, which will also be the end of hackintosh

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 18 hours ago

    Well, one foot in the grave. I declared the time of death earlier. :)

    [–] Janovich@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    There’s probably still at least one nutjob trying to solder an M4 onto an ATX board so they can stretch the meaning of hackintosh… and I for one salute them.

    [–] jqubed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    Just stick a Mac mini in the case and call it a day!

    I was about to hit send on this, then looked it up and realized you could actually stick one in the 5.25” bays, although it would take two of the standard “half height” bays—or at least some extra height in the case—because it would be too tall by less than half an inch. I would not be surprised if someone has already done this.

    [–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

    I'm guessing the translation in the OP is: "fancy". In which case you can buy a fancy Mac anywhere Macs are sold.:-P

    [–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Is there a distro that just has wildly high minimum requirements for no reason whatsoever?

    [–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Idk if its still in development but I used to use "PinguyOS" and that was extremely high on system requirements, ran like absolute shit but it supported Microsoft Silverlight out of the box and I needed that at the time.

    Edit: I looked it up and added a link it is not in development anymore and hasn't been for quite some time

    [–] duhlieluh@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago
    [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

    My Kubuntu RPi 4 does not look that much different.

    [–] Vitaly@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago

    electricity (optional)