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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 226 points 4 days ago (2 children)

One day, WiFi might even be usable as a method for making a reliable network connection

[–] Tlf@feddit.org 26 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Just imagine how much humanity could benefit if sharing and accessing knowledge was freely available for almost anyone

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The problem is not sharing and accessing, but generating. If we had a system where people would be paid for generating knowledge, then they wouldn't have to charge for accessing knowledge.

That's why a lot more research should be paid for by the government. In exchange, government-funded research would be excluded from having patents and/or copyright.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Goverment funded research is paid for my public money via taxes but the research information is not publicly accessible, I can understand this if it's defense or other secretive research but there is no reason someone should have to pay for access to other research fields information when it is publicly funded

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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago

One can dream. For now though it's the one radio my phone doesn't use. Mobile network tunneling through Bluetooth baby! My atrial fibrillation when remain between me and my meth dealer! Shout out to Craig!

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 79 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Wifi sognals can read my heart rate, and be used to track me around my house. But I still can't get a signal in my room one floor up from the router.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is the key point - these have to be clear signals in the same room.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Dalraz@lemmy.ca 59 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is really cool and will be useful. My second thought was oh great now my smart TV can see how excited I am watching their injected ads and how many people saw it too. One of the many reasons to never connect modern TVs to the Internet.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

The next headline will be "wifi connecting to internet-no modem needed"

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 116 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

This tech scares the hell out of me.

Great if we can make MRI quality imaging eventually available, but being able to monitor where people are in their homes remotely and their health status in our world is fucking dangerous.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 21 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Real question: how do you stop this?

I don't use wifi at all in my home but I live in an apartment and all my neighbours obviously do.

How in the hell do I stop this from getting into my home?

[–] TwoDogsFighting@lemmy.ml 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Turns out the tinfoil hat gang was right the whole time.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Innocuous radio signals are one thing but if my apartment is inundated with radio waves that can literally be used to track my movements and monitor my heartbeat, being forced to allow this is a perverse and sickening invasion of privacy.

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[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Own the network. Run OSS.

That's about it.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 days ago

"Howdy neighbour. Your wireless modem/router combo is mine now. Thxkbye"

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 135 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Damn. “TikTok would like to access WiFi”

We need new permissions for this shit. WiFi can do presence detection and now heart rate? What next? Eye tracking?

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 74 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure applications can only send and receive data, with the finer details being handled by the OS.

But yes, there should be a specific permission to access biometric information.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That makes sense. I assume these exotic ability’s require precise control of the radios. So, for now, until an API made, we should be safe.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 days ago

"Google enters the chat"

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Maybe not eye tracking, but probably head tracking.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 88 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Insurance companies...sorry you're denied for being a health risk....we can see from your home internet that you're an unhealthy person

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 24 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Remember kids, you can buy your own home fiber router! Don't live with someone else's equipment between you and the internet.

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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 45 points 4 days ago (11 children)

The Paper: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/11096342/metrics#metrics

This is very cool and useful, but at the same time very concerning. While I see a lot of good use cases for this ranging from hospitals to stress recognition in animals I Am also quite scared, that big corporations will use this to spy on us. Luckily currently it is only possible to measure the pulse at about 3m, but it should be possible to increase the range. It may fall short when multiple persons are in detection range, but as far as I have read from the paper they did not test this.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 59 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Inb4 the cops starts doing nonconsensual "polygraph tests" using wifi

Those 5G Conspiracy Theorists probably feel vindicated after reading this lol

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Is this good? I can’t tell if it’ll just be used as one more invasive information gathering data points for Amazon and google

[–] yaroto98@lemmy.world 65 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wow, all that with an esp32. No fancy hardware needed.

[–] Mora@pawb.social 13 points 4 days ago

Which means we can have that data in Home Assistant sooner or later🤔

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 46 points 4 days ago (5 children)

How much longer until I can be like "Hey, Google; scan the area for lifeforms?"

[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)

robo voice: There are 352 hot, single women in your area.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago (5 children)

And I guarantee some organization will figure out how to use this for some police state bullshit.

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[–] inconel@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 days ago

Capitalism asks whether you are the kind of person harvesting people's health info without concent or selling aluminum mesh underwear with fearmongering campaign. No other choices.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Is this good? I can’t help but think it’s just another datapoint for google to scrape

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (12 children)

2026: Major grocers found using customer heart rate to personalise prices - higher the pulse, higher the price

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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Cool tech but I question it's usefulness. They focus on clinical in their language but anybody who's on telemetry orders needs waveforms not beats per minute. I care if they're suddenly in afib, not that they're a little tachy after getting up to go to the bathroom.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So how long before our phones can measure heart rate from your pocket, or being held in your hand?

[–] potoo22@programming.dev 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They already can by putting your finger on the camera and lighting up your finger with the led light. Then it detects the rhythmic changes picked up by the camera... At least 10+ years ago. It was a good novelty feature, but turns out, for most healthy people, checking your heart rate gets old after a few runs.

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[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So the tricorder in Star Trek was just a fancy, battery powered wifi hotspot??

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