There are no billionaires in star trek, Elon.
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Lower Decks made fun of billionaires in the latest season. There was a planet that recently joined the Federation and was burning money and throwing away gold. And there were some unhappy local billionaires.
I want one of their "no money no problems" t-shirts
Sure there are. They are all short with really big erogenous ears.
People should absolutely reply with pictures of Quark and various Ferengi.
Elon names stuff after things in The Culture, but he's Joiler Veppers
Grok really upsets me, that's my favorite book and although I know Mike wouldn't hate Elon I really really hope he would. That said if you limit sources and insist on making it see through your lens you're by definition not allowing it to grok anything.
Grok is from Robert A. Heinlein. I believe the first reference is Stranger in a Strange Land. He would probably be okay with billionaires, too. He was also a promoter of competence and critical thinking, so he might have held Elon specifically in disdain.
Yes it's my favorite book.
Mike was a billionaire, the nest had a literal pot of money that anyone could just take and do whatever.
But no he would love Elon. To grok is to understand fully, to understand is to know, to know is to love. Essentially everyone has a redeemable quality and Mike would love that part especially but also all the lesser parts and even the hard to love parts because all those other parts are part of what makes the part he truly loves.
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Exactly. I would have started with ending all monetary systems and starting a global post-scarcity society.
A Starfleet Captain commands the wealth of nations. I don't think it's fair to say Billionaires Don't Exist so much as to say the liberal ideal Meritocracy is made manifest.
Being entrusted with large amounts of resources is very different from owning large amounts of resources.
I didn't watch Picard. How did Geordie end up with the Enterprise?
Paramount wanted to make a shit ton of money off a property they owned, so they fucked around with established continuity to give it more mass appeal.
He's the caretaker of the federation fleet museum. Basically a cushy retirement job for a guy who has a family and didn't want to get shot at any more. He's probably the only cast member that acts like an adult in Picard. 😆
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I’m in charge of $600 million+ worth of hardware at my job. This does not grant me monetary agency over the value of that hardware.
Commands, as in "has the responsibility for".
Not "owns and can do whatever the fuck they want with it and be a dumbass asshole to everyone"
Various Star Fleet officers have periodically violated Federation rules and guidelines to achieve some ideological goal or moral imperative that cuts across the fleet's stated mission. Like with anything there's limits - Starfleet has its own police, crews can mutiny, eventually you run out of dilithium to gas up your warp drive so you can't go rogue forever. But for a deep space galaxy class vessel, they're regularly stuck making their own decisions under a military autocracy.
The Starfleet Admiralty Problem is a chronic plotline in the series, with admirals routinely engaged in all sorts of corrupt practices and villainous endeavors. Every captain from Kirk to Freeman has to deal with their share of higher ranking officers fucking around and being dumb assholes. Hell, Kirk himself is demoted from Admiral to Captain for going rogue in The Voyage Home.
Yes this is called individual freedom. And people are apt to serve their own interests occasionally. The overall point is that there are consequences to those actions. And every one of those rogue admirals discovered what those consequences were. None of them got off scot-free to ride off into the distance with their ill-gotten gains.
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Somebody show this clown TNG The Most Toys, the one where the emotionless android feels a surge of hate and blasts the space billionaire that enslaved him.
RIKER: Mister O'Brien says the weapon was in a state of discharge.
DATA: Perhaps something occurred during transport, Commander.
And then he gets away with it because Riker hates billionaires too 😎👌
The transporter chief would be the only one who could have told Riker for certain otherwise, and well... The chief on duty was certainly no friend to billionaires.
A good union man.
O’Brien fucking rules
And now I know how he got on Sisko's radar. Perfect man for the job.
Star Trek is Woke! Oh yeah. The whole idea of sci-fi is exploring ethical dilemmas in the real world, but using advanced technology as a metaphor. MAGA isn't smart enough to see through the ruse.
Elon's caught in a liminal space between Wine Mom Liberal and Extremely Divorced Chud. He remembers people being excited about Star Trek, but he only grasps the "pew pew space lasers!" part, not the "ethical dilemma of the Kobayashi Maru" part.
If he'd been fully MAGA'd, he would be raving about Bringing Christ's Holy Message Beyond the Stars or doing Heinlein callbacks to Moon Is A Harsh Mistress.
Instead, he's still got this latent impulse to convince whatever dregs of the 1960s Space Race liberals left at NASA that he's still cool.
Star Trek always has been woke. If anything, I think the wokeness in nu-trek went down and got replaced with empty populist showoff
We're obviously in the Terran universe
We're actually still on track for the prime Star Trek universe. Things got really, really bad before humanity got its shit together. That last part is how you know it's fiction.
Things regularly get bad and then good again. The Star Trek lore is modeled on the Hoover Great Depression giving way to a New Deal and Great Society.
The fact that it was written in the 1960s, when that monumental economic transformation was just wrapping up, isn't a coincidence.
Places like Texas and Florida were being transformed from agricultural backwaters to the forefront of interplanetary travel. The distance spanned between 1929 and 1969 is borderline magical.
I think the point where the universes diverge is when we decide how cool goatees are.
I say it's not too late to start the Bell riots.
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Bet he's hoping for the mermaid right there.
What a fucking tonedef two-bit cleptoclown.
Fucking poser. Like if the imbecile wanted moneyless, post scarcity society. He just wants warp drives, phasers, and oppression.
Warp drive? Fast transport for large masses of people? Sounds communist. We should bore tunnels for slow cars beneath Las Vegas instead.
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Voyager's ship's doc is really active on social media. He's the Ship's Emergency Command Officer we always needed, a Charles in Charge for the future.
I just realized that’s who is replying here lmao don’t mind me, I’m a moron!
Second step: Ensure all are provided for regardless of nationality, work status, etc
Third step: Ensure all have the right to speak out, to join in the process of decision making, the freedom of movement, etc
TIL holograms can seriously burn you.
first step is getting all of thr planets fractured governments/clans/tribes to coalesce into a united world free of prejudices and power madness
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