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[โ€“] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Other alternatives:

Mail: Tuta, Mailbox.

Search Engines: SearXNG, Mullvad

Alternative to Signal: SimpleX Chat

AI: Ollama, Kobold.cpp, Llamafix

Browsers: LibreWolf, Tor, Mullvad

Navigation: OsmAnd, Organic Maps

Also, recommended for everyone regardless of threat model...

a paid VPN. And not one of the flagship ones either. Pay attention to the VPN's jurisdiction. If it's US-based or Swiss-based, it's imo a no-go.

Whatever goes on stock market can be discarded. If it's on stocks, it'll be far more profit-oriented and that's a problem.

[โ€“] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Calling Molly an alternative to Signal is a bit much. It's, as far as I understand it, a recompile of Signal with Google Service intergations replaced by Open Source integrations

[โ€“] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yikes, didn't know that. Removed it, thanks.

It's still a good alternative to the signal client, just no alternative to Signal as a messaging platform

[โ€“] bigchunga@feddit.online 13 points 2 days ago

Too much Proton for my taste.

[โ€“] roserose56@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

There are a lot of EU emails providers not just proton.
Just to list some:
mailbox.org
posteo.de
soverin.com
tutanota.com
infomaniak.com
mailo.com

Also this https://european-alternatives.eu/

edit: general speaking, too much proton.

[โ€“] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

AFAIR none of those allow sending and receiving calendar invitations, that interfunction with outside services (eg Outlook.com, Gmail, Apple). Proton does. Send a calendar invitation from gmail/outlook/Apple to a Proton user; they can accept it and it will automatically add to their calendar and send back an acceptance email that gmail/etc understands. Vice-versa also true.

I trialled almost all of those before I ended with Proton, because it was the only one that felt like they actually tried to get calendar and email functionality on par with major (non-privacy focussed) service providers, and in general was the most polished.

They are all fine if literally all you need is simple email though.

[โ€“] roserose56@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the info!

[โ€“] biofaust@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Tuta does.

Source: I use Tuta as my main driver.

[โ€“] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How about from ChatGPT to nothing?

[โ€“] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] morethanevil@lemmy.fedifriends.social 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They even suspended journalist accounts this month

I don't recommend Proton anymore

[โ€“] Squizzy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I was in the process of switching when the CEO ran his mouth. Now Im just another unused account on a server somewhere

[โ€“] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why'd you choose HERE WeGo over a FOSS option like CoMaps?

[โ€“] Kalon@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It would be nice to see that in F-Droid. I assume they are working on that.

[โ€“] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Kalon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I realize now that it is on F-droid. I needed to change display options so I could see it.

[โ€“] blinfabian@feddit.nl 0 points 3 days ago

because i like a maps app that functions

[โ€“] az04@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel like Google Photos -> TrueNAS is too vague, TrueNAS is just an operating system, and it's creator, iXsystems, is American so it doesn't fit here at all.

My solution is Immich running on a docker container in OpenMediaVault. OpenMediaVault is German and Immich is multinational FOSS.

[โ€“] blinfabian@feddit.nl 4 points 3 days ago

i use a smb share on truenas. truenas is opensource thats why i included it

Iโ€™m currently moving from Proton to Tuta. The fiasco with shutting off journalists accounts without recourse was one straw too far.

[โ€“] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Missing Photoshop --> GNU Image Manipulation Program (doing business as GIMP)

[โ€“] blinfabian@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago

ikr? although, GIMP is not the replacement. GIMP is first choice๐Ÿ”ฅ

[โ€“] Szewek@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

I used to search with Ecosia, but the Bing-sourced results were sometimes really poor quality. I've recently gave one more try to Karma Search. While it worked really poorly earlier this year, I am very positively surprised by the quality of the results! (Of course, the "quality" is my vibe at the moment, and idk if there are good ways to benchmark search engines)

[โ€“] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I like it. Well done! Didn't even know proton has that many things.

Would be nice if they added Social Media in there

aka.
Reddit --> PieFed

I would strongly recommend moving as far away from Signal as possible. Thereโ€™s heavy corruption by the U.S. in that area. Itโ€™s not fully encrypted, not to mention it can still be monitored on when and if someoneโ€™s sending a message, just not all the content.

Hereโ€™s a good essay by Dessalines on the matter, theyโ€™ve been dealing with cybersecurity for a while, though I donโ€™t know anything about the other recommendations on the photo: https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/why_not_signal.md

[โ€“] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How good is here we go with non car locations? Also does it have trains and buses?

[โ€“] blinfabian@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago

walking/cycling its pretty bad imo, but i never have issues with the trains, buses and the car

For AI Language models, I have been happy with Mistral's Le Chat. For VPNs, use NordVPN. Both are great European alternatives for US-based tech giants.

[โ€“] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Or how about instead of using a hallucinating misinformation bot you just think for yourself.

Also big tip. Donโ€™t put your eggs in one basket. Andy from Proton has gladly licked the Trump boot and proton has repeatedly pumped out new products instead of taking the time to fix the existing ones like full Linux support already. They have also been accused of vibe coding and thatโ€™s a slippery slope to a large data breach.