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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

If those fat farmers would stop lazing around eating avocado toast and surfing the web on their iphones while wearing overpriced red maga caps, maybe they'd be getting some work done, right? Time for them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and quit complaining.

seriously though, I'm tired of this whole "noble down to earth conservative farmers" shtick. I grew up rurally, more than half of them are right wing douchebags who asked for exactly this outcome. Hey you got rid of the farm laborers. Good for you and congrats on your big win.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 11 points 7 hours ago

I'll do it for 150$ an hour plus benefits.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 11 points 8 hours ago

Oh shit, its like they voted for this, or something!!

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

“I’m a stupid Nazi and I ruined my own country” said whoever they always quote in these articles.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago


Image description: An image of an RSVP style card saying “A FORMAL REMINDER: You Voted For This. YOU ARE GETTING WHAT YOU DESERVE. NOVEMBER, TUESDAY 5, 2024 YOU MADE YOUR CHOICE.”

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 27 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Well, goooooollllly. And gee-whillickers.

Now just who the fuck could have done this to us? How could Kamala and her cackle do this to such fine, upright REEL MERIKANS?

“The whole thing is screwed up,” said John Painter, a three-time Trump voter who runs an organic dairy farm in Westfield. “We need people to do the jobs Americans are too spoiled to do.” [emphasis mine]

Well, lookee here. Gosh, I wonder if there is any correlation to voting and outcomes?

Also, is this guy stepping up to do the job, or is he "too spoiled"?

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

I think you meant:

"Ach, now who in the world went and done this to us, once?"

[–] sbbq@lemmy.zip 93 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

The people that hire a ton of immigrants unerringly vote for the guy who promises to remove immigrants. What did you think was going to happen?

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

They blamed it on "spoiled Americans".

They're blaming this on liberals and "people don't want to work anymore" again. Because they're fucking mentally lazy and broken.

My favorite bit of the story:

“People don’t understand that if we don’t get more labor, our cows don’t get milked and our crops don’t get picked,” said Tim Wood, a dairy farmer and a member of the Pennsylvania Farm Bureau board of directors.

Oh, I do understand. I think it's your farmers that don't understand, when it's time to vote.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 30 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

It looks like their farms will be bought at a discount by the oligarchs.

[–] AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 11 points 12 hours ago

What a kwinkidink considering this:

JD Vance gets rich by owning an app (acretrader) that helps investors outside of the United States snap up real estate deals (including many family farms and rental properties) that are then owned by people who have never and will never see those places and who ONLY own those places to obtain money and power in our country.

[–] JHRD1880@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Damn, if only there was something in a program, maybe some sort of... project that would have warned them about it.

[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

That would only be useful if it had a year in the title to help identify when it would start to be implemented.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 53 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

They were told that it would just be the criminals and gang members, and they were stupid enough to believe it.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 33 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Some? Maybe

Mostly it is just that their hate and selfishness overrides everything. It is the same reason that pro gun republicans still won overwhelmingly after the massacre in Uvalde and farmers keep voting for republicans no matter how much they get screwed over. Because as long as they can believe someone else is suffering more, they are happy.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 10 points 13 hours ago

I think you vastly overestimate how informed these people are on anything related to politics. Most of them don't think any further than, "vote red because that's what I was raised to do."

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 11 points 16 hours ago

While they simultaneously screamed that every immigrant was a criminal

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[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Your question assumes capacity for forethought.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

And the capability to empathize instead of just raw dogging every experience like it's a brand new thing that nobody could ever imagine or understand.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Here's the thing: they aren't asking for a reversal of the policy, they just want a fix to the problem. A solution that the criminal-industrial slave complex can provide...

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

"Arbeit macht frei" will soon adorn the farms that benefit from whatever solution this admin provides.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 26 points 14 hours ago
[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 81 points 17 hours ago

Tell me how you voted, and ill tell you how I feel about your plight.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Hire legal workers and pay your proper taxes, asshole. Especially when your money is probably coming from subsidies anyway

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 47 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

What never ceases to amaze me is that people hiring undocumented workers aren't getting in major legal trouble, and that they straight up admit they were doing it publicly.

Assuming the mindset that we need to get rid of the big scary immigrants, how are the people hiring them not equally culpable?

[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 3 points 10 hours ago

Same mindset that complains about how ridiculous traffic is from the pilot's seat of a car, in traffic.

Girl, you are traffic.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 25 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Hey now, logic has no place here. You're also forgetting the foundational principle of our criminal justice system. It's not illegal if you have money and your motivation was greed.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

And if your crime didn't hurt rich people. That's very important.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Also, you can't punish individuals when a whole company does crimes, because you can't hold companies accountable.

Unless the company harms the wealthy, then some scapegoats might suffer some consequences.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 9 points 14 hours ago

they were under obama. He deported people but more importantly he fined the employers.

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

awwww shiet I wonder why

[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 23 points 15 hours ago
[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 13 points 14 hours ago
[–] whyrat@lemmy.world 38 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

“The whole thing is screwed up,” said John Painter, a three-time Trump voter who runs an organic dairy farm in Westfield. “We need people to do the jobs Americans are too spoiled to do.”

With an attitude like that it's no wonder you're having trouble finding people to work for you...

“We moved to H-2A out of necessity,” added Sarah Zost, an orchard grower in Gardners, Pennsylvania. “No one wants to use the program. It’s a paperwork nightmare.”

If only one party had been proposing to fix immigration; only to have their efforts hamstrung by insistence we first "strengthen the border". See reference here: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-collapse-of-bipartisan-immigration-reform-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/

The best chance to enact comprehensive reform came in 2013 during President Barack Obama’s second term, when a bipartisan group of senators dubbed the “Gang of Eight” agreed on a bill that would toughen security at the southern border and make it harder for employers to hire migrants who had entered the U.S. illegally while providing legal status and a path to citizenship for millions of such migrants who had resided in the U.S. for many years. The proposal passed the Senate 68 to 32 with strong bipartisan support. But because it did not enjoy the support of a majority of House Republicans, then-Speaker John Boehner refused to bring it to floor for a vote, and the measure died.

Article doesn't mention pay either...

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 20 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

But because it did not enjoy the support of a majority of House Republicans, then-Speaker John Boehner refused to bring it to floor for a vote

Ahh yes, the informal rule named for child rapist Dennis Hastert (R) that has only ever been used by republicans.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

John Boehner is a drunk piece of shit who was constantly crying in public because he was constantly shitfaced at work. Just throwing that out there. I speak from personal experience.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 11 points 16 hours ago

three-time Trump voter who runs an organic dairy farm

He was doomed to fail from the start.

[–] 7112@lemmy.world 29 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

It's too bad the punishment for what THEY voted for only applied to them, since they asked for it. It'd be nice if normal Americans could go on living our lives under a normal administration...

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure what to tell you dipshits if you didn’t know this would happen after last time. It’s a literal repeat for farmers.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

That's why they had to be BRIBED in his first term. They expect those handouts/bribes again, I'm sure.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

Well, yes. Happens when you take the road to stupid.

Have you tried this "bootstraps" thing?

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 11 points 16 hours ago

The whole thing is screwed up,” said John Painter, a three-time Trump voter who runs an organic dairy farm in Westfield. “We need people to do the jobs Americans are too spoiled to do.”

Huh. Can’t see any problems here. Have the day you keep voting for, buddy!

I feel so bad that some poor “salt of the earth” can’t keep the farms their daddies left them… 🙄

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Good.

I hope they lose their jobs and have to struggle to find another living while a corporation buys their land.

[–] notabot@piefed.social 3 points 12 hours ago

Do you really want a corporation buying their land, or just someone with more sense?

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

that “free market capitalism” they think they have/had was worth it huh? pay workers more so you can find them locally, or if you cannot, close your farm. or fight to remove all borders (objectively a good thing) so you don’t have to worry about the made up an ever moving goalposts that is “immigration law.” or fight to remove capitalism and off a few burbs with one stone.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Duh. Just find the Americans willing to work for the same wages. Easy.

Thanks trump!

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