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    [–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    Arch killed my parents btw.

    Should've read the installation guide better.

    [–] treesquid@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

    HEY GUYS, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS TOTALLY UNTRUE BULLSHIT I JUST MADE UP AND CAN'T PROVIDE A SOURCE FOR?

    [–] incompetent@programming.dev 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    The title is inaccurate but not far off.

    β€’ Cops in this country think everyone using a Google Pixel must be a drug dealer (Updated)

    "Police in Spain, specifically in the autonomous region of Catalonia, are very alert when they spot someone using a Google Pixel phone. As weird as it sounds, Pixels are highly preferred by those involved in organized crime, according to the Catalan police."

    [–] untorquer@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

    Cops find the stupidest ways to misattribute the mundane as criminal.

    The internet: "I for one, am totally outraged. Outraged I say!! And I bet it somehow all Trump/Biden/Obama/Kirk/Kimmels fault!!!! Dont forget to like my comment of popular thing I said!!!".

    [–] xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day 45 points 20 hours ago

    I would need more information about this story

    [–] utopiah@lemmy.world 28 points 19 hours ago

    Unless there is a verified source it's FUD and it's actually not helpful for freedom and privacy.

    [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 39 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    (I live in Spain and use GrapheneOS BTW). How would police even know it's GrapheneOS? Shit, why would they be looking at my pone in the first place? The only possible situation is: you were arrested for something, as part of investigation they have a warrant to access your phone, they try to unlock it with common tools, they fail, they realize it's GrapheneOS.

    Or, scenario 2: they are in a shady neighborhood, they see a guy with a Pixel phone (you can tell because of the camera bar) and they think "that's a strange choice for an unemployed dude sitting in bar whole day" and they assume he's dealing and, I don't know, make a mental note about it.

    [–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

    Excuse me, officer? What exactly are you accusing me of? Doing cocaine? Sweet, aromatic, Bolivian cocaine?

    [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 43 points 22 hours ago
    [–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

    What I think is that I should probably look into installing GrapheneOS on my Google Pixel.

    [–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

    You should, its honestly crazy how simple the installation process is

    [–] NooShoes@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

    Check your banking app first, chances are it won't work on GrapheneOS.

    [–] TrumpetX@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

    Big false, most work just fine. They do often require the play store and services to work. Need to use the sandboxed Google services.

    So, if you're trying to de Google, ya, banking apps won't work, but if you're okay with just increased control and privacy, in you're fine.

    [–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

    I'm a bit of a luddite in that respect, I don't trust apps for anything that important. I know, it's probably fine, and I probably should, but I don't. Just one of my weird hangups I guess.

    [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

    You aren't alone. I also refuse to install apps like that. I also really hate it when companies don't have the option to not store my card or personal information.

    [–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

    I'm similar but I don't like the idea of someone swiping my phone and maybe being able to get into my payment apps so while I use online banking, I don't let it save my login information. Is kind of a birch to have to log in everytime, but makes me feel safer

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    [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 154 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    This is the second time I've come across this story.

    If you look closely, random people are not being taken aside for being seen with a Pixel as the headline would have you believe.

    What is true is that Graphene OS on a Pixel is a popular, easy setup that can't be cracked open with Cellebrite et al., and that makes the piggies very sad. Methinks someone wants readers to fear using Graphene OS.

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Also, Graphene has that duress mode, you set a pin/password that when entered locks out storage, does a wipe, while leaving grapheneOS in place. It seems US citizens maybe needing this in the future.

    [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    If autocrats manage to fully take over, they'll just enact a policy that assumes you're guilty of the charges if the phone, for whatever reason, gets wiped (especially after entering a code you provided). Your "right to silence" isn't gonna last forever.

    You can't fix an abuse of power issue with a technological solution, its only a bandaid, and it will stop working when blood keeps gushing out (aka: the instutions of democracy starts to completely fall apart)

    [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    It needs to be a smarter mode where it only removes specified content (apps, browser history, and saved passwords maybe), so that the phone looks plausibly used when it unlocks.

    [–] groet@feddit.org 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    90% of cases they want your chat history and maybe search queries. You would need a decoy history because no history is very suspicious

    Lol I'm gonna look sus af since I have zero friends I don't talk to anyone.

    [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Where can I find these hacktools ? I have a whole damn bunch of android 9 phones I can't root because their bootloaders are non-unlockable and that pisses me off.

    Back in my day, hackers would just publish that shit in 2600 zine, now they're all corporate sellouts selling on 0day to the fucking fed.

    [–] groet@feddit.org 2 points 14 hours ago

    You could ask Moxie Marlinspike of Signal messenger. I heard he has an older version of cellebrite laying around.

    [–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    I doubt these tools would help you. They are primarily for pulling data off devices, spying on them, or controlling them.

    Even if you could buy them as a private individual you wouldn't want to pay that cost. There might be pirated versions, but most who have use of these tools have no interest in pirated software.

    There are extremely skilled people who make a living finding vulnerabilities, so there's not a lot of low-hanging fruit left and those who find serious vulnerabilities have generally worked hard to do so.

    When a single exploit can pay enough that you could pay off all your loans, buy a house, or not have to work again for years, or maybe ever. Why would you go through all the trouble of finding it to release it publicly and get nothing? Especially when it's going to be used by these shady companies either way.

    I'm not saying exploit selling is morally right, it certainly isn't, but if I was offered millions of dollars to do the wrong thing, I'm not sure I would turn that down.

    This used to be funded by academic and research outfits, functional releases justified their funding and that was enough. But some unethical entities have started paying big money for exploits as weapons, profiting from their put into profitable use. So the academics now just sell them on gray and black market to the highest bidder.

    [–] Seefoo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

    Grapheneos is only installable on unlocked phones. Specifically pixels. There is a complete list on their site

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    [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Once they start just taking your stuff, they are thugs. You deal with them like any other thugs.

    I recommend a M84 Zastava.

    [–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    Sounds like a great way to get yourself killed. They have guns too.

    [–] end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    That's why I open carry a W88

    [–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

    ICBM in the back of a truck with the control switch or we riot.

    [–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

    Headline is not true.

    A police spokesperson from one Spanish region told that they suspect of people carrying google pixel phones because they are commonly used by drug dealers with GOS installed. It was made more as a comment than as a serious threat.

    I have heard nothing about any actual confiscation based on phone OS being made.

    [–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    All this comes from one quote

    Every time we see a Google Pixel, we think it could be a drug dealer

    https://en.ara.cat/society/technological-warfare-the-drug-traffickers-motive-against-the-police-s-trojan-horses_1_5398821.html

    There's a paywall that can be removed with the element zapper of uBlock

    [–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    I mean, as long as they don't have evidence, the cops can think what they want, right?

    I could be a serial killer. I am not, but... I could be!

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    [–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 70 points 1 day ago (5 children)
    [–] RushLana@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 1 day ago (16 children)

    Thanks!
    Turns out that OPs heading is a little bit exaggerated, as nobody is confiscating anything.

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    [–] Geodad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    He has the right, but not the ability...

    [–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

    Arch took away his right to remain silent.

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