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    [–] treesquid@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    HEY GUYS, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS TOTALLY UNTRUE BULLSHIT I JUST MADE UP AND CAN'T PROVIDE A SOURCE FOR?

    [–] incompetent@programming.dev 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    The title is inaccurate but not far off.

    β€’ Cops in this country think everyone using a Google Pixel must be a drug dealer (Updated)

    "Police in Spain, specifically in the autonomous region of Catalonia, are very alert when they spot someone using a Google Pixel phone. As weird as it sounds, Pixels are highly preferred by those involved in organized crime, according to the Catalan police."

    [–] untorquer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

    Cops find the stupidest ways to misattribute the mundane as criminal.

    The internet: "I for one, am totally outraged. Outraged I say!! And I bet it somehow all Trump/Biden/Obama/Kirk/Kimmels fault!!!! Dont forget to like my comment of popular thing I said!!!".

    [–] xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day 47 points 3 days ago

    I would need more information about this story

    [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 165 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    This is the second time I've come across this story.

    If you look closely, random people are not being taken aside for being seen with a Pixel as the headline would have you believe.

    What is true is that Graphene OS on a Pixel is a popular, easy setup that can't be cracked open with Cellebrite et al., and that makes the piggies very sad. Methinks someone wants readers to fear using Graphene OS.

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 74 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Also, Graphene has that duress mode, you set a pin/password that when entered locks out storage, does a wipe, while leaving grapheneOS in place. It seems US citizens maybe needing this in the future.

    [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    If autocrats manage to fully take over, they'll just enact a policy that assumes you're guilty of the charges if the phone, for whatever reason, gets wiped (especially after entering a code you provided). Your "right to silence" isn't gonna last forever.

    You can't fix an abuse of power issue with a technological solution, its only a bandaid, and it will stop working when blood keeps gushing out (aka: the instutions of democracy starts to completely fall apart)

    [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    It needs to be a smarter mode where it only removes specified content (apps, browser history, and saved passwords maybe), so that the phone looks plausibly used when it unlocks.

    [–] groet@feddit.org 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    90% of cases they want your chat history and maybe search queries. You would need a decoy history because no history is very suspicious

    Lol I'm gonna look sus af since I have zero friends I don't talk to anyone.

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

    Hide an encrypted version of the history in a bunch of memes that make up the entirety of the fake history? Sounds like a great idea if they don't spend too much time looking.

    [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    Where can I find these hacktools ? I have a whole damn bunch of android 9 phones I can't root because their bootloaders are non-unlockable and that pisses me off.

    Back in my day, hackers would just publish that shit in 2600 zine, now they're all corporate sellouts selling on 0day to the fucking fed.

    [–] Seefoo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

    Grapheneos is only installable on unlocked phones. Specifically pixels. There is a complete list on their site

    [–] miked@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago

    xda probably has that

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    [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    (I live in Spain and use GrapheneOS BTW). How would police even know it's GrapheneOS? Shit, why would they be looking at my pone in the first place? The only possible situation is: you were arrested for something, as part of investigation they have a warrant to access your phone, they try to unlock it with common tools, they fail, they realize it's GrapheneOS.

    Or, scenario 2: they are in a shady neighborhood, they see a guy with a Pixel phone (you can tell because of the camera bar) and they think "that's a strange choice for an unemployed dude sitting in bar whole day" and they assume he's dealing and, I don't know, make a mental note about it.

    [–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

    Excuse me, officer? What exactly are you accusing me of? Doing cocaine? Sweet, aromatic, Bolivian cocaine?

    [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 44 points 3 days ago
    [–] utopiah@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

    Unless there is a verified source it's FUD and it's actually not helpful for freedom and privacy.

    [–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 99 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

    Headline is not true.

    A police spokesperson from one Spanish region told that they suspect of people carrying google pixel phones because they are commonly used by drug dealers with GOS installed. It was made more as a comment than as a serious threat.

    I have heard nothing about any actual confiscation based on phone OS being made.

    [–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    All this comes from one quote

    Every time we see a Google Pixel, we think it could be a drug dealer

    https://en.ara.cat/society/technological-warfare-the-drug-traffickers-motive-against-the-police-s-trojan-horses_1_5398821.html

    There's a paywall that can be removed with the element zapper of uBlock

    [–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    I mean, as long as they don't have evidence, the cops can think what they want, right?

    I could be a serial killer. I am not, but... I could be!

    [–] Waffelson@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

    In fact, I remembered incorrectly, the Pixel phones that were seized were put in packages that prevented data from being deleted remotely.

    Spanish police are allowed to hack phones to counter illegal activities

    In the particular technological war between drug traffickers and the police, an important element has recently come into play: Trojans. With judicial authorization, the police infect traffickers' phones and thus gain access to most of the applications, images, and documents on a device

    https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.ara.cat%2Fsociety%2Ftechnological-warfare-the-drug-traffickers-motive-against-the-police-s-trojan-horses_1_5398821.html

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    [–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    What I think is that I should probably look into installing GrapheneOS on my Google Pixel.

    [–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    You should, its honestly crazy how simple the installation process is

    [–] NooShoes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Check your banking app first, chances are it won't work on GrapheneOS.

    [–] TrumpetX@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

    Big false, most work just fine. They do often require the play store and services to work. Need to use the sandboxed Google services.

    So, if you're trying to de Google, ya, banking apps won't work, but if you're okay with just increased control and privacy, in you're fine.

    [–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    I'm a bit of a luddite in that respect, I don't trust apps for anything that important. I know, it's probably fine, and I probably should, but I don't. Just one of my weird hangups I guess.

    [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

    You aren't alone. I also refuse to install apps like that. I also really hate it when companies don't have the option to not store my card or personal information.

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    [–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 70 points 4 days ago (5 children)
    [–] RushLana@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Thanks!
    Turns out that OPs heading is a little bit exaggerated, as nobody is confiscating anything.

    [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

    Those articles don't really support the claim? At all?

    https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-organized-crime-preferred-phone-3573578/ is unsourced but, taking at face value, seems like what one would expect. People aren't getting stopped at checkpoints and forced to divulge what OS their phone is running and being taken to a black site if they run GrapheneOS. But someone holding up a pixel in a sea of cheap motorolas DOES raise some eyebrows. Same as someone with a ridiculously expensive rolex walking around The Hood and so forth. And, presumably, people who have been arrested for other reasons raise even more eyebrows if their phone isn't running a stock OS which...

    Look, with a just police force (ha!), that actually is a very reasonable stance. Back in the day it was having a Blackberry. For a decade or so it was having two phones until people learned to not do anything personal on a work phone and that became kinda normal. There are activities that are generally associated with "weirdos" and "criminals" and I think even the GraphenOS devs would acknowledge their userbase fall firmly into the former. If you see someone with a Blackberry hanging out leaning against a 7-11? You maybe hang out across the street for an hour and keep an eye on them. Arrest someone and they have three burner phones in their pants pockets? Maybe you look a bit deeper.

    That is actual investigative work. Of course, the problem is that it instead becomes "That gameboy looks like a drug dealer's phone. We are going to stop and frisk you and maybe sexually assault you in the back of the cruiser if we are bored".


    I'm keyed in on a lot of "high level" protest discussion as well as what investigative journalists need to do for actual safety. And one of the biggest topics that regularly comes up is the idea of "the burner". In theory, if you are crossing a questionable border or think you might be stopped, you bring a completely blank burner. If they hack into it, you are safe, right?

    Wrong. Because you are now an anomaly. NOBODY has no social media and NOBODY has no documents on their laptop. So what are you hiding? Let's beat it out of you.

    Which is why general best practices are often considered to have a real device that you actually use everyday and take through those checkpoints and on the riskier protests. But you make damned sure there is nothing incriminating or sensitive on there. Optimally through having your "burner" be the one you do said activities on, but also through just removing it well before you get on the plane or get in the car.

    And a lot of that applies to device choice too. That cool ass Linux Phone might seem like a great idea but now you stand out from the crowd quite a bit. Same with taking your top of the line iphone to Korea where Samsungs grow on trees and so forth.

    [–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Well, in my region it typically is already sufficient to look Arabic to become the guest of a "random" police control.

    Compared to that, having a closer look at people running GrapheneOS on their phones sounds relatively well-grounded and almost reasonable.
    At least not totally crypto-racist (although I have the feeling that still comes on top...)

    [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago

    Oh I 500% assume racism is a big part of this too.

    Not familiar with Catalonia but I assume there are at least a few ethnic groups that are associated with "rich" and this is a way to group them in.

    Which, funny enough, was also kind of the deal with Blackberries. Yeah, Dealers had them. Because Dealers like buying expensive shit (See also: really expensive Rolex in a neighborhood where everyone is on food stamps) AND because they were ridiculously ahead of their time tech wise. You know who else had them? Business and (proto-)tech folk. And cops LOVED to say that the kid who actually made something of themselves going back home to visit family must be a Dealer because they have the same phone all their co-workers do.

    Which gets back to: As part of an investigation, it is good. It is one part of a potential puzzle. In the reality of ACAB... ACAB.

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    [–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Arch killed my parents btw.

    Should've read the installation guide better.

    [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Once they start just taking your stuff, they are thugs. You deal with them like any other thugs.

    I recommend a M84 Zastava.

    [–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Sounds like a great way to get yourself killed. They have guns too.

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    [–] kadup@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Confiscated for having GrapheneOS? What?

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    [–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 12 points 4 days ago

    What do you think about the fact that Google Pixel phones are being confiscated in Spain if they have GrapheneOS installed?

    I think that's fucking wild, is what I think.

    [–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

    One thing is certain:
    The day the related news story got viral, champagne corks must have been flying in the marketing department at GrapheneOS...

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    [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago (7 children)

    So if we don't want Google monitoring our stuff we are going to be considered criminals, fuck this world is going south. I wanted to find an alternative OS with this bologna about side loading apps coming forth with Android but I haven't figured out what kind of phone yet. If this spreads I guess Pixel won't be the option

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    [–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Should have put Hannah Montana Linux on their phone instead. SMH my head

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    [–] Geodad@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    He has the right, but not the ability...

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