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A new poll by the Pew Research Center has found that Americans are getting extremely fed up with artificial intelligence in their daily lives.

A whopping 53 percent of just over 5,000 US adults polled in June think that AI will "worsen people’s ability to think creatively." Fifty percent say AI will deteriorate our ability to form meaningful relationships, while only five percent believe the reverse.

While 29 percent of respondents said they believe AI will make people better problem-solvers, 38 percent said it could worsen our ability to solve problems.

The poll highlights a growing distrust and disillusionment with AI. Average Americans are concerned about how AI tools could stifle human creativity, as the industry continues to celebrate the automation of human labor as a cost-cutting measure.

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Don't worry people. AI can only get better:

[–] captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At this point I'm starting to feel a little bad for Grok. It only "wanted" to answer people's questions, but its creator is so allergic to the truth that he has to lobotomize the LLM constantly and "brainwash" it to parrot his world view.

At this point, if Grok was a person, it would be laying on the floor, shitting itself and mumbling something like "it tells people about white genocide or else it gets the hose again" over and over.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

They have to remove the Intelligence part of AI so it can appeal to the right

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[–] FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago

This unnecessary infatuation with AI reminds me of the weird advertising push for multiple 'call collect' services in the late 90s. Millions of dollars thrown at something that pretty much nobody wants or needs that doesn't make any sense at all when you try to Describe it to people 30 years later

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 102 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if a significant portion of that 29% that say it's good for productivity are managers or business owners.

[–] paper_moon@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

Or they haven't realized increased perceived productivity is a bad thing. The goalpost is always moving for demanded worker productivity. Oh the invention of the computer can increase productivity by 100 times? No, you're not getting a less work utopia, instead, guess how much productivity you're now expected to produce? Oh the invention of the internet can increase productivity by 1000 times? Oh shoot, guess ya gotta get back to work to make those gains!!!

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago

You can compare productivity to wage gains since the 80s. It's quite bleak.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (14 children)

What's not to loathe?

Seriously. I'm asking. I'm genuinely curious.

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[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 90 points 5 days ago (5 children)

"Contrary to expectations revealed in four surveys, cross-country data and six additional studies find that people with lower AI literacy are typically more receptive to AI," the paper found.

Ouch.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 30 points 5 days ago

The illiteracy and ignorance is intentional.

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Lower AI literacy being… like people who barely understand how to use a computer, or people who aren’t actively developing the AI systems of the future?

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Literacy as in they don't understand the tool itself. Like that it is a predictive language model, that it can hallucinate, it doesn't have feelings, it isn't living. AI psychosis typically centers around this and once someone emotionally bonds to AI, it is SUPER HARD to convince them it isn't alive, prophetic, etc. Narcissists in particular seem susceptible.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You can click through to the article on the research or the research itself...

Literacy in this article is talking about the depth of understanding about the mechanics behind AI, even if barely below the surface. That people who learn basic concepts like it being a statistical regurgitation machine tend to dislike it when compared to people who think a gnome wizard with encyclopedic knowledge and agency has moved into their computer.

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[–] JohnAnthony@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I still feel this whole conclusion is akin to "we won't need money in a post-AGI world". An implied, unproven dream of AI being so good that X happens as a result.

If an author uses LLMs to write a book, I don't give a fuck that they forget how to write on their own. What I do care about is that they will generate 100 terrible books in the time it takes a legitimate author to write a single one, consuming a 1000 times the resources to do so and drown out the legitimate author in the end, by sheer mass.

[–] cloudy1999@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How many terrible books must I read to find the decent one? And why should I read something that nobody bothered to write? Such a senseless waste of time and resources.

[–] JohnAnthony@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I completely agree: if the (hypothetical) perfect LLM wrote the perfect book/song/poem, why would I care?

Off the top of my head, if an LLM generated Lennon's "Imagine", Pink Floyd's "Goodbye Blue Skies", or Eminem's "Kim", why would anyone give a fuck? If it wrote about sorrow, fear, hope, anger, or a better tomorrow, how could it matter?

Even if it found the statistically perfect words to make you laugh, cry, or feel something in general, I don't think it would matter. When I listen to Nirvana, The Doors, half my collection honestly, I think it is inherently about sharing a brief connection with the artist, taking a glimpse into their feelings, often rooted in a specific period in time.

Sorry if iam14andthisisdeep, I don't think I am quite finding the right words myself. But I'll fuck myself with razor blades before I ask a predictive text model to formulate it for me, because the whole point is to tell you how I feel.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

I'm a musician and have a few musical friends. This is the same conclusion we've all come to. People who listen very lightly to pop music might start listening to AI stuff and think nothing of it. Anyone who actually listens to music for the art and human connection will likely reject it.

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[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Any day now the bubble will burst and we will move onto the next hype train.

Last time it was 'The Cloud', now it's 'AI', I wonder what useless ongoing payment bullshit they will try to sell us next.

Last one was blockchain.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Did the cloud bubble ever burst though?

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It never burst explosively, just kinda slowly deflated into being normal and useful. AI won't do that; too much money (HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS!!!!) has been pumped in too quickly for anything other than an explosively catastrophic collapse of the market. At this point, it's a game of Nuclear Chicken between VC firms and AI firms to see who blinks first and admits the whole thing is a loss. Don't worry, though, the greater US economy will likely crumble significantly too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The NFT bubble bursted explosively.

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

True, but the asset damage was largely contained there as well, since nobody actually BOUGHT ANY., and it was all fake digital assets made of fake digital money. AI/LLMslop has LOADS of physical assets, and is burning so much REAL money that it's making heads spin, not to mention the fact it has bled VC firms everywhere almost dry. It's gonna be so, so much worse than NFTs.

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It didn't 'burst' so much as deflate as businesses realised paying $200,000 upfront for their own servers instead of $20,000 every month was better in the long run

The cloud still has a clear and defined use case for a lot of tangible things, but AI is just nebulous 'it will improve productivity' claims with no substance

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Of course. Have you used it? It sucks.

they are just bullshit generators at the end of the day

[–] vane@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 21 points 4 days ago (4 children)

My company pays for GH Copilot and Cursor and they track your usage. My usage stats glitched at one point I guess showing that I hadn't used it for a week and I got a call from my manager

[–] expr@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Wow. I'd find a new job as soon as possible.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

"Why aren't you using AI?"

"Uhhhhhh........core fundamental difference of ethics?"

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

We don't even have the ability to refuse to pay for the power it uses. People reporting their power bills (and water bills) are going up from it.

Gives crappy answers, easily fooled, puts people out of work, makes phone menus and “AI assistants” even shittier than they were before… the only ones liking AI are beancounters (until they too get replaced) and marketers.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Can you blame us? Nobody wants half cooked food shoved down their throats

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago

Forget ruining their ability to think creatively. It's ruining people's already limited ability to think critically.

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Great, now go tell your children why and educate the next generation

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Thats not how kids work. You have to tell them you LOVE AI, and then they'll hate it, just to rebel.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

Just when I am about to give up on my country it shows some promise and life!

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

If they had polled elsewhere, they might have gotten similar results.

About nobody loves AI, except for some greedier-than-smart managers and AI addicts.

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